Gardening Questions: Is There Ever Too Much of Luping's Basil?

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Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 21, 2009 10:06 AM	Morning all! Those were some pretty flowers you guys posted on the last basil thread...I wanted to put up some pics but the weeds out there are just crazy. Humidity won't quit, no rain... we have outdoor parties all weekend so I assume that's when the rain will come. Kassy did you ever say what that plant was? I have a good 13, 14 hour day today...frankly I'm not 20 anymore, I better pack up some power bars. Rachel I do 30 minutes of cardio whether I need it or not grin... I don't like it. Jim I'm glad your back is feeling better, keep up the good work. Moonrock, Lavarock, how's things? :)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 11:51 AM	Rocking right along....guess you could say things are Rock Steady......grin...got a theme song for you Lynnie.... "She's Rock Steady, check it and see, even tho the temp is 103,she's ROCK STEADY, ROCK STEADY....... Oh and after that 14 hour day....it is Friday night, Lambic time, don't forget to stop and shop on the way home.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 03:56 PM	LOL, would you too make up your minds as to where we are going???.............LOL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 04:01 PM	This plant Lynn? Oh and don't call them weeds. Not when my BF is around anyway! He says anything that blossoms is a flower :p View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 04:03 PM	I think this bee is saying yummmmmmmmmmmmm View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 21, 2009 05:10 PM	If flowering plants can't be weeds, that only leaves ferns, mosses, liverworts, and algae. I'll vote for algae to be weeds! The stuff can be pretty slimy.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 05:18 PM	Oh boy Dave, you and my BF would really get along. I'm with you on the algae! Too bad his truck is still not fixed. The 2 people that work on his truck, well one had a stroke, and the other broke his ankle. :(
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 05:46 PM	Sorry Kassy. My Bad. I didn't see Lynn's post on the slug thread and thought maybe she hadn't gotten a chance to log-on. A mind is a terrible thing to waste and I think I spilled some of mine....must be what that little stain on the carpet is....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 06:23 PM	LOL moon You mean that slug thead is still going?........Hmmmmmmmmmm
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 06:32 PM	Just shy of 1000 posts.....I know....tic toctic toc.....sounds like the crocodile in Peter Pan. It will be interesting to see what transpires....
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 21, 2009 07:07 PM	It sure will be. Did you happen to look at the blossom of the day moon? OK gotta get the car packed and head out
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 21, 2009 07:15 PM	Will the slugs magically disappear?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 07:26 PM	Only in your dreams Dave. grin Not yet Kassy.....going to look now.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 07:29 PM	Aw, Kassy, they used your Mama's lilies. Too cool. Know that made your day. Hey, two weeks in a row, first the Poppy, now the lilies....you just go girl....grin, but be care when you do...grin.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 21, 2009 09:25 PM	Guess I'm not with it but where is the bloom of the day located? Kassy drive carefully. Lot of nuts out there or is Louisiana the only place with nutty drivers.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 21, 2009 11:03 PM	We have our share for sure Jim. On the home page if you scroll down toward the bottom of the page there is the voting booth, birthday list, new subscriber list and a group of random pictures of plants and critters.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 22, 2009 12:41 AM	hi all just got in a little while ago, long day! Could use a Lambic! Moon what song is that? All i can think of is Hot Blooded (Foreigner)
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 22, 2009 12:50 AM	Also, RAIN! FINALLY!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 12:51 AM	Yes ma'am, that would be the song....I did paraphrase it a bit however. I know you are glad this week is over. Ican will be back fulltime Tuesday, so she can tell us about salmon fishing.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 12:52 AM	Good deal. I told you it was coming...grin.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 12:56 AM	Hey Dave, guess what I got today? A whole pot full of Alpinia Nutans....Cardamon ginger. Yeah, now I can make chai. The leaves are fantastic and smell wonderful. Are there any other scented gingers, that you know of?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 22, 2009 01:11 AM	oh lol took me a few minutes to get the tune to the words when i read it....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 01:22 AM	Just another one of the little trivia games we play...I can change that tune in 5 minutes.....We have invented a number of games over the years to entertain the kids on trips.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 01:29 AM	Thank you Moon Both plants were my mom's, but both pictures where ones I took..... I just wish I could have gotten that easter lily before it froze out :( Jim, I was one of the nuts out on that road today........LOL I was taking pictures on my way up . Glad a cop didn't see me. I'll have to download the pictures tomorrow. BF will be kicking me off here before long :( And Dave, all 4 of the plants are safe ;-) I checked on them after I unloaded the car and then tried to get a few pictures of my flowers, but it was pretty windy when I got here, so not sure how many of them turned out.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 22, 2009 02:03 AM	Jim, Your a lucky man to have your Rose! Very special lady you married;-) Now where is Girla. Girla come on over too;-) Rachel Rachel, my wife's only complaint is, "Tell the women to quit getting makeup on your coat. Cleaning is expensive." Lord, is that woman jealous or what.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 22, 2009 02:13 AM	I'm thinkin about keeping her. Need any pear preserves. Lordy, bought 4 cases of pint jars today and 1 case of 1/2 pints. Still got 4 gal. of muscadines in the frig. I hope the kids like this stuff cause there is no way the two of us could use that much jelly and preserves. If it makes her happy, I'll buy the jars. Maybe we could have a rummage sale and sell that stuff. I talked to owner of our local "Freds" and he said he couldn't keep jars. Sold more than he ever has. I guess people are afraid of this economy and are preserving this year.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 07:12 AM	Hey Jean, don't use your Alpinia to make tea! It might smell good, but it ain't Cardamom! Too much of that plant could mess up your stomach. True Cardamom is Elettaria cardamomum. The seeds are used for the spice. Thanks for caring for those plants Kassy! I'll keep trying to locate experts who might be able to help ID the plant. Jim, to avoid getting make-up on your coat, don't wear a coat! Rachel, has your family always been in the Virginia area? My family (Dad's side) first showed up in Virginia in 1685 (Philip Paul) to avoid persecution from King James II in England. Philip Paul moved to New Jersey within the same year. His brother, John Paul, settled in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. On my Mom's side, my family originated as farmers in the hills of Pennsylvania (Juniata). They are of German and Irish decent. They showed up in the early 1800's. It's been a rough day; I ripped a muscle in my right shoulder doing construction. Luckily, I'm left handed.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 09:32 AM	Hard to sleep on a sore shoulder. I sneaked up on this Coleus plant in the dark, shined a flashlight on it and snapped a photo. It doesn't look like this in the daytime! Do you ever wonder what your plants are doing at night? View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 22, 2009 10:24 AM	coll pic, Dave,I was up at 4 AM also lol hope your shoulder feels better!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 02:58 PM	I figure they do the same thing people do Dave, let down their hair and be themselves...grin. I did more reading on A nutans....rats. But it smells great, so it is a keeper..grin Hope the shoulder heals quickly...doing the ice on/off routine? A little capsicum and selfheal might help.And you should do a chamomile and willow bark tea to ease the pain. Good morning Lynnie,
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 03:11 PM	OK Dave, what in the he** did you do to your shoulder? I missed that somewhere. We jump around so much, who knows where I missed it at! Pretty Coleus plant Dave. Mom loved them. One of her flowerbeds by the house was always filled with them. Morning Moon. Morning Lynn. Morning Rachel Morning Jim. Oh and Dave, you may have just come up with a title for a new thead............ What are your plants are doing at night? LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 03:27 PM	Good Morning Kassy. I think you may have a new idea....Luping's basil: what are your plants doing while you sleep? That is the challenge of being a gypsy rock band rebel, you are never really sure where you are...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 04:00 PM	OMG moon, you mean I have to hunt for you all over? OMG = oh my god............for those of you that didn't spent alot of time in chat
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 04:05 PM	No, Kassy, we tend to broadcast our whereabouts rather loudly...and frequently, grin OMG....writing that down in the chat dictionary....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 04:17 PM	Thank, would hate to have to spend half the day looking for all of you. Sholder pain? I know that all to well! Had tendonitis in both of my shoulders at one time. Now try to sleep when you have it in both of them, not easy. Going to download the pictures I took yesterday.............brb OOPs, another one for you to write down.........LOL brb = be right back
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 04:31 PM	and the entries just keep on coming...grin I have SYL and BFF, ROTFL and our very own STMWCFMN....
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 05:04 PM	??
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 05:21 PM	spraying the monitor with coffee from my nose.....
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:23 PM	LOL, you had me wondering on that one. I never saw that one in chat! The trip up here View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 22, 2009 06:24 PM	hi all....gotta a party to go to! It's outside, I'm gonna melt.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:34 PM	Oh Lyn carefull, don't melt......I could send you our weather, it was cool when I got here yesterday, and the sun just came out now.......It's nice out here. Lynn, can you read the sign in this picture? Sorry I had someone right behind me, or I would have pulled over to take the picture. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:36 PM	I get such interesting views on the way up here...... View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:40 PM	And more trees....... View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:42 PM	But the sky was very interesting! View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:48 PM	Soccer anyone? This is a mushroom we have growing here. Next I'll give you an idea of just how big it is View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 06:49 PM	A Whopper! View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 06:55 PM	Great pictures Kassy...love the sky. Either that is a large puff ball, or you are a garden Gnomette in tennis shoes...grin Sending cool breeze thoughts your way Lynnie...maybe even a moment or two of cloud cover...no rain til tonight though.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 07:20 PM	Doesn't OOPS translate to oops? Hey Kassy, looks like a Giant Puffball, Calvatia gigantea! When they're young they're quite edible!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 07:37 PM	OK Dave, you are just the person I wanted to talk to then What do you call young for these huge things?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 07:43 PM	When they are white throughout. Looks like the one next to your shoe is perfect for the frying pan. Add a little olive oil, butter, garlic, sea salt, and veggies. Makes a great stir-fry!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 07:57 PM	OH, running back out to make sure it is ok yet!! Need to check the yard for more too BF usually has a few that come up in different places every year. He had a friend that he use to call to come over and get them, because that friend liked them. BF doesn't like mushrooms :( I asked him what ever happened to that friend recently, and he said "he died" :o :o :o I wasn't about to touch the mushroom until someone could tell me what it was!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 08:01 PM	Giant Puffballs are some of the best eating mushrooms on the planet! You can't buy them.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 08:04 PM	OH and Dave, I wasn't talking about oops, I was talking about brb :p Lets see if Dave can keep up with the chat dictionary
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 08:05 PM	OMG, brb
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 08:18 PM	That's not fair Kassy! I haven't even finished learning American English yet!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 09:06 PM	ROTFL ok pay attention Dave :p ROTFL = rolling on the floor laughing LOL = laughing out loud OMG = oh my god brb = be right back hmmmmmmmm let see, are there any more that you should know.....Hmmmmm Oh and Jean had one of her own...............LOL I picked it Dave............I think I should have picked it yesterday, but I didn't know for sure then.................btw.......oops................. btw = by the way............LOL Ok btw, my BF was just kidding about his friend being dead! OK, I'm going to go cut it and see what it looks like. BF's friend would pan fry them in butter.............That sounds good too, especailly when you have a BF who won't eat them :( Maybe I have to look for a new BF so I can make stirfry with it..............j/k..... Wait!!!! But then I wouldn't get the mushrooms!!! oops j/k = just kidding Dang I better stop, I'm remembering way to may of them. Going to cut it now to see what it looks like
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 09:15 PM	Thanks Kassy, I was thinking brb was short for burrbb.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 09:23 PM	LOL Dave
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 22, 2009 10:03 PM	Hello everyone. Beautiful picture's Kassy, love that big white mushroom too;-) Dave, interesting history concerning your families origin's. I do remember my father saying the Falwell's originated from German descendant's and yes my immediate family has alway's lived in Va. I havea couple of aunt's/uncles that live in various other state's. So sorry to read you ripped a muscle...wishing you a speedy recovery there! That's got to hurt Jim, thank's for the offer on the preserve's and hope you and your wife are doing well today.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 22, 2009 10:33 PM	Hi Rachel, My Dad's side of the family originated from the Oberrhine (Rhine) area of Germany. They were extracted by King Edward VI in a deal by royals, and brought to Somerset, England around 1547. They were charged to make a "serge" cloth from wool for the King for their keep. Over several years my ancestors (Paul) were infamous for being persecuted by justices under the authority of King Charles II, because they (as Quakers) refused to pay tithes, take an oath, or remove their hats while in court! When King James II replaced Charles II, their persecution was relaxed. But King James II was a devout Catholic, and my Kin decided to team up with the Duke of Monmouth to overthrow James II in what is known as the Monmouth Rebellion. Unfortunately they lost. Justices then started to bring my Kin to court and told them they would be "set free" in they would confess their involvement with the Rebellion. Those who confessed were quickly hung! This led to my family immigrating to America in 1685. I a guess by birthright, I really am a Rebel!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 10:50 PM	Aha, so you admit you are a rebel.......grin, cool on the family history. Hi Rachel. How goes it? Kassy, complete details on the puff ball fry......including pictures, especially any of anyone turning blue or ROTF not laughing...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 11:12 PM	No puff ball fry :(
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 22, 2009 11:13 PM	Interesting read Dave. So what are you not good at;-) You know about plants/rock's/history . Your an interesting person as a whole. Hi Jean, doing well, hope you are too. Kassy are you frying up some of those mushroom's? I love mushroom's raw/cooked.......anyway you fix them.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 22, 2009 11:17 PM	I don't think you would want this one Rachel...... I should have gotten it maybe a few days earlier :( Green just doesn't look good to eat :( But I love mushrooms, so now that I know what they are, I will be keeping my eye out for them. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 11:44 PM	Sorry Kassy, know you were looking forward to it. Just remember to take pics of the next one.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 22, 2009 11:54 PM	Just wanted to show you these....they are tissue paper thin and disintegrate when you touch them View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 23, 2009 12:14 AM	Do the caps of that turn to ink when they get old? Maybe a Coprinus.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 12:21 AM	Cute. For some reason we end up with a number of mushrooms in this yard. Most of them are usually near and apple tree. I remember the puff balls being there twice so far. When I started seeing my BF, that was the first time I had ever seen that puff ball mushroom. He usually ends up with one or two a year. And that one that I took the picture of, was growing right next to my flowerbed that the chickens dug for me Dave, why do they not sell them in stores, other then the fact that they are huge. How many bees? View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 23, 2009 12:26 AM	Maybe they have too short of a shelf life.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 12:52 AM	Well they have a short life in the yard too when you don't know what they are, and when you find out you don't get to it fast enough :( I'll keep an eye out for the next one, and I know my BF will too as he knows I like mushrooms. And I'll take pictures of it Jean. May have to wait until next year for that one. Hey, we seem to have a lot of German's here.........LOL My Dads parents came over from Germany, and so did my Mom's grandparents. Dave, that's why you and I are Rebels! View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 01:07 AM	I do not know Dave...more of the Australia stuff. I just thought they were pretty rain forest critters. Kassy, My dad's family is German and Cherokee and my mom's is Scots-Irish and Iriquois ....
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 01:27 AM	Hey, I have a great chat buddy in Scotland.............Someone I would love to meet. I have talked to him for 8 years now on messenger! Lately him and I haven't run into each other a lot on messenger :( BF fixed the butterfly house. Yeah!!! A nice new paint job too! View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 23, 2009 01:40 AM	Cute butterfly house Kassy;-)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 01:46 AM	The butterflies will be tickled....looks really nice.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 01:53 AM	Thanks Rachel Last year a woodpecker pecked a hole in it and sat in it.......made it easy pickings for him! Bluebirds used it this summer as their home then. And BF just fixed it in the last two weeks........woodpecker won't get into it again!! BF Is the one who painted it. Now just so we can draw back some of my butterflys Bi-colored butterfly bush..............yes, bi-colored.......the third color died out for some reason :( View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 02:16 AM	OK, being kicked off for tonight. Tired anyway. Stay safe. Talk to you to tomorrow View Larger
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 23, 2009 02:33 AM	Always thought my ancestors came from England on the Mayflower. John Goodman did, but died in the second year of colonization, unmarried. While playing on the computer came across a distant cousin who has done all the research on the family. First ancester in America was Johann Michael Guthmann. Came from Germany via Amsterdam. Fleeing religious persecution. He had two sons who the next record were calling themselves, Goodman. I assume the German gutteral pronunciation sounded like Goodman, so they just took that as there name. First settle in Pennsylvania but almost immediately migrated south. The bulk of them ended up in Georgia. A place called Goodman Crossroads. From there my Greatgrandfather and all his brothers (a whole pile of them) formed a wagon train and migrated west. My greatgrandfather dropped out of the train at a place called Pelahatchie, Miss. The rest migrated to East Texas.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 23, 2009 12:56 PM	good morning all! good lord...I just woke up, latest I've slept in forever... Kassy I can't tell what that sign says, I'm on the laptop though. Be very sure of mushrooms before you eat them, I trust Dave knows what he's talking about. Ancestry....mother's family came over on one of the original ships, stayed right along the East Coast. Father's family came over during Mussolini's reign, stayed right along the East coast :) I'm an east coast gal...English, Irish & Italian the party yesterday was a blast. need more coffee...
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 02:03 PM	Good morning Lynnie. So glad you had fun and a good night's sleep...grin I am gonna have to do family research on my mom's side again. My older sister had all the documentation that my mom spent years gathering. When Franchesca died a few years ago, her daughter took "all those boxes of papers and pictures and other junk" to the dump in Cody Wyoming...."because it was cluttering up her garage".
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 23, 2009 02:10 PM	oh no! somebody on my mother's side traced our ancestry, it was very interesting stuff....they made copies of stuff & passed it out. on my 3rd cup of coffee.....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 02:43 PM	Me too...may have to go for four....buzz buzz. My mom spent years gathering information and photographs, some of them were tin-types. The information is still out there, the photos are unfortunately irreplaceable....foolish children. My sister's job was to copy and disperse....she felt as the oldest it should come to her and she promised to copy and disperse it it all....she had the stuff for 13 years and inquiries were always met with, I am working on it.......
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 03:42 PM	OMG Jean, Why didn't her daughter ask anyone in the family if they wanted the stuff..... Never mind, you don't have to answer. I have a sister who would do the same thing and not think a thing of it. And she is older then me! I be the baby I'm glad I got to mom's pictures before the rest of them did. I have a ton of pictures that they will never have or care about. Including my Dad's old logging camp pictures. Lynn, that picture sayd "Amish Built Cabins, Built on your site" and then it gave the number, so yes, we sure do have Amish around. That sign an the cabin are about 5 miles from where I live, so you can be sure they are around there somewhere too.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 04:19 PM	I understand that the Amish shun modern ways in their homes, phones, tv and radio, even electricity, so I always get a kick out of signs for Amish products that include phone numbers and web sites.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 04:32 PM	LOL Jean, well they are giving us a phone number and they put electricity in the house......hmmmmmmmm Has to make you wonder how they learned to do that then, huh? Our Dill is blooming white? LOL Just kidding. He had to leave a few things go in the garden....LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 04:38 PM	You'd be hard pressed to sell houses without the basic ammenities, and these days, electricity is usually considered pretty basic....that and indoor plumbing...GRIN
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 05:27 PM	LOL very true and they better have heat in them here too!! Our scare owl. Not that it scared much away.........LOL View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 05:33 PM	They will probably have those "revolutionary new heaters with real Amish crafted surrounds"...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 07:54 PM	OH, look what was flying around me when I was out by my butterfly bush He didn't want to hold still long enough for me to take his picture though, so the picture isn't the best :( I have him or her circled in white. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 08:01 PM	Yesterday evening I had two different sphinx moths getting in my face while trying to weed. Finally gave up and let them have the vincas...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 08:12 PM	Well I was lucky to get this ones picture...........Tried 5 times and only managed to get him or her twice, and then not that good of pictures either. Shorly after that I was weeding my flower bed some and a hummingbird came buzzing and stayed there and watched me for a bit.... I think he was telling me to get out of his food patch. Name that flower? View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 08:19 PM	Looks like a coreopsis. My kids called them Coreypops. This message was edited Aug 23, 2009 3:20 PM
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 08:21 PM	OK Jean question? Is that known to be invasive?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 08:32 PM	They will reseed, but usually pretty close to the mother plant and they transplant easily. They make a great cut flower. I have three of four cultivars, one named mouse ears for its' tiny leaves and another, one of my favorites, called Jethro Tull, cuz the petals are tubular (fluted).
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 08:43 PM	OK thanks, someone told me that it was a very invasive plant when I posted it on plant ID and that it would take over. I told him that was strange, because this one has never moved from the spot it was planted in, and no more have ever popped up anywhere. And in the spring I even get worried as to if it is coming back or not....... Then he said maybe it was due to our weather..............LOL I have to down load a couple of pictures I took with my camera, and then I have another ID for you
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 08:47 PM	Man, you'd think Dave was around....grin. Just don't get too exotic on me...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 08:55 PM	LOL Jean :p I'll only get excited if you say I have a pot of gold under one of them, or they are worth a pot of gold!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 09:00 PM	OK, found this by my flower bed, well one of them anyway. Picture of the leaves coming up. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 09:02 PM	The leaves View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 09:21 PM	Possibly a potentilla fruticosa. http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/potfru/potfru1.html
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 09:35 PM	I am too excited. I am getting some black bamboo....free. It is a running bamboo, not sure of the ID, but I have already figured out how to control it. Now I just have to find out its' name. I wanted to get some, but the only places that sell it are so very proud to have it....one place wanted $95 for a 2 gallon pot/ 2 shoots, and another wanted $65 for a 1 gallon pot. NOPE, not from me. GRIN Gotta go pick up the kidlet...see ya later Kassy.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 09:43 PM	OK Jean, talk to you later.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 09:44 PM	Is that your plant Kassy?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 23, 2009 09:57 PM	Sounds like Phyllostachys nigra var. nigra. Keep it is a pot to keep it controlled. Hows'it Folks! Had a close call yesterday, known as a "Severe Insulin Reaction". Thought I was dropping dead, and had to go to the hospital. Apparently I wasn't eating enough carbohydrates, and went low blood sugar, I tried to correct by eating some chocolate, multigrain pretzle, and milk, but the symptoms returned repeatedly, having hypoglycemic episodes that got worse each time. My blood sugar level got so low that I had a dangerous reaction. From now on I will need to get a substantial meal in me to start the day with.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 10:59 PM	Geez Dave....everyone knows a good breakfast is the best way to start the day.....Add some brown rice to your breakfast ....it is pretty good with milk and banana add a little coconut and heat it and you have a pretty good breakfast cereal.....seriously, glad you are okay. That can be scary stuff....gonna have to have us all fuss at you like we do Jim.....GRIN....hey, gypsies look out for each other..even the rebels. grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 23, 2009 11:04 PM	Thanks Jean, from now on it will be breakfast first and plant ID and gardening after.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 23, 2009 11:35 PM	Now do I have to tell you how important a good meal is Dave. I learned all about good meals from the best, my mother..... She was a dietary directer of a nursing home. I have hypoglycemic episodes at times too, and so does my DIL. They have never showen in blood tests that either of us have it, but I know that feeling all too well. Protien Dave! Make sure you get some kind of protien in at your breakfast. I found that helps big time with me. And cinnamon works for my DIL. I guess it helps to keep the blood sugar up. I'll see if I can find anything on it for you. Now, is what plant mine???? I have put in a few
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 23, 2009 11:46 PM	The potentilla. Is that the name of the plant with the heart shaped petals? Oh, I have made up my mind to put this palm of mine in the ground. It keeps rooting out of the pot and is in a 30 gal container....too big to keep moving, so into the ground it goes. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 12:22 AM	Nope, that is not it.......the little plant I found in the grass near my flower bed is maybe 4 inches high and there is one about 3 inches away from it
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 24, 2009 12:53 AM	Sound's like us gal's are going to have to load up and fly over to Hawaii and make sure Dave is taking care of himself after having to deal with a ripped muscle and a severe attack like he had.........Ya'll ready? Loved the owl Kassy and Jean....what palm do you have?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 24, 2009 12:56 AM	yes Dave be careful with that! No dropping dead. Review your diabetic guidelines. May need to adjust for activity. I'm tired, had another party today...it's HOT out there! I wear tons of sunscreen I'm way too tan for my liking. We had more rain tonight, the weeds are winning! lol
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 24, 2009 01:00 AM	that owl IS cute.... Sorry I neglected to say hello to you ladies, and Jim. I'm over here muttering about Dave building stuff & not eating enough to make up for it....(or whatever it was you were doing whne you tore a muscle...)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 01:08 AM	I think your right Rachel........... I couild make sure he learns the chat dictionary then too Thanks Rachel, as I said, BF has way too much time on his hands. We have other birds in the yard too. Wood ones, and real ones.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 01:10 AM	Thanks Lynn, will tell my BF you liked the owl
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 01:25 AM	Hi Rachel, Hi Lynnie. Dave REALLY doesn't want an invasion of the gypsies......a couple at a time could be formidable....the five gypsy women at once would just be scary....grin Rachel, that is Caryota maxima Himalaya, Himalayan fishtail palm. It is over six feet tall in the pot and heavy as Southern air in August...grin. I am getting tired of hauling it around, so it is going into the ground this week. Good on you for sunscreen Lynnie. I feel kinda sorry for these women who eschewed sunscreen for great tans, and now have skin like shoe leather...grin. I can burn in the winter in a half hour outside....summer, maybe fifteen minutes....and I hate the feel of sunscreen, but know I have to... my arm against my midrif looks like it belongs to a different person....grin Dave, how is the shoulder? Good thing it is not you chocolate stirring arm....grin. Ican should be back on Tuesday evening, I think she said her Dad was leaving Tuesday morning. Cute little owl Kassy....guess he doesn't keep the snakes away, he looks too sweet. grin Ummmm a buttercup?
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 24, 2009 01:32 AM	Giggle's.......I think Dave could handle us all at one time........hand's down;-) and nice palm to have Jean! Good to see you Lynnie. Sound's like you have been a busy Lady over the weekend! Anyone heard from Jim today?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 01:40 AM	Jim was driving to Shreveport after church today so he could be at the hospital for a friend's surgery EARLY Monday morning. He and Joanne were gonna stay over at a hotel tonight to make it easier on them. He said he'd holler at us probably Tuesday. Lynnie has been social butterflying this weekend....and she didn't melt...grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 02:33 AM	How long have you had the palm Jean? They can get huge before they flower; up to almost 100 ft. tall.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 02:37 AM	I can just see it now, Jean with a 100 foot palm...............Jean, I want pictures when it gets that big :)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 03:51 AM	This variety gets to about 40 ft at maturity in the Himalayas. I have had this palm for about 25 years.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 03:59 AM	Maybe a diet low in phosphorus and higher in nitrogen could help to prevent it's maturity.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 04:25 AM	This palm is about 6ft tall. It gets slow release osmocote every 3 months and Miracle grow liquid once every 4 to 6 weeks.So. it has been getting more nitrogen than phosphorus, because it also gets watered with aquarium water about every three weeks. I may have a sudden growth spurt fixing to happen when it goes into the ground.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 04:39 AM	Hey Jean, on the Palm thread you mentioned your palm is an offset from your mother's plant. Isn't Caryota maxima supposed to be a solitary trunked palm?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 05:14 AM	For 25 years that has been the name of this palm....I just googled a bunch of pictures....I have absolutely no idea who this palm is...absolutely a fish tail...questionably a palm. I really was sure the original ID was correct. Now, I am just as sure it isn't....I need to edit a post. Thanks Dave. Now, Any idea who this plant is?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 05:29 AM	Okay. I have the Clustering Fishtail Palm, Caryota mitis 25 http://www.hear.org/Pier/species/caryota_mitis.htm Check out this link Dave and see if you agree. View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 06:45 AM	I've got Caryota mitis. When it gets light out, I'll get some close-ups of the leaf-lets. I'll check out descriptions to see if there is anything that stands out too look for. Good news would be that the palm is long lived and is easy to grow. It is also very high in oxalate, and the sap can burn your skin.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 07:49 AM	Now that things are back to normal, I guess this is a good time to show some palms! Here is Euterpe oleracea, the Acai Palm. View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 08:06 AM	This is Pinanga caesia. View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 08:28 AM	Hey Rachel looks like Hurricane Bill is headed your way; you gonna be okay. Want me to come over there and help! Let me know what's happening! The evening news made it look pretty nasty on the coast. This is Kaneohe Poni, a Hawaiian Sweet Potato, Ipomoea batatas. A traditional Hawaiian food that provides high quality carbohydrates. (A good subject lately!) View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 24, 2009 08:44 AM	Here is Hawaiian Taro, Colocasia esculenta var. esculenta. More good carbs (corms) and good veggies (leaves). View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 24, 2009 09:55 AM	Bill was a nasty one,all right.... Dave make sure you eat plenty of palms today ;) I have to work and then I'm on call till tomorrow morning.... You guys have a good day, stay cool!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 12:09 PM	Good morning, all. have a good day Lynnie. Don't let them run you ragged. Dave, I understand why you guys eat the Ipomoea and esculentus....if you didn't they would overgrow the whole island.grin Do you also have Diplazium esculentum, vegetable fern? That is another goodie that can take over when it gets happy. Neat thing is it is completely edible also. Looks like more weather cooking in the Atlantic....We have had two days with no rain and last night the temp actually dropped to 65, a record breaking low for us. rain is scheduled to return Wednesday. Dave, all the information on my instructions/info paper are for C.mitis , everything but the name was right. Guess I should have been more curious all these years...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 04:49 PM	Goodmorning Moon Look what's in the garden......Yummmmmmmm View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 05:50 PM	Good morning Kassy. Those look scrumptious. How goes life this fine Monday?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 06:13 PM	Doing ok, have beem trying to get a picture of the butterflys by my butterfly bushes, but every time I go out there, they go away :( Going back home tonight and then back to work wednesday night. I didn't know we had white dill? LOL View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 06:17 PM	Amazing the things that show up in the garden...grin. You may just have to sit outside for a few minutes until the butterflies forget you are there...grin BTW, I really like your POTENTILLA....ROTFL...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 06:29 PM	OK, now how did we get that thing? And it will never make it to 3 feet high......not in the lawn it won't. Funny thing is, it says it grows along roadsides......I think I have to take my camera after I am done with dishes and take a walk down the road! More yummmies View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 24, 2009 06:57 PM	oops, 2 feet, typo! I need to check these things better before I send them in............LOL It's still never going to get that big in this lawn. Look the tree grew, so someone decorated it more! Way to much time on his hands!! View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 08:31 PM	Good Afternoon, Kassy. Hey, Dixiegril's thread in plant ID is being used as a" what's happening on DG" on the Home page....even mentions gypsies....grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 24, 2009 09:24 PM	http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/PoisPlant/Tox-S... This is a link to a study of common poison garden plants and trees. It is very informative and interesting...a little surprising on some things. Give it a look....
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 24, 2009 11:43 PM	hi everybody! got home late, having a late dinner, starving! Moon how do you keep them from running you ragged? I was lucky to get lunch today. those peppers look especially tasty Kassy. I hate when I finish dinner & I'm thinking "what else can i eat?" And that's what I'm thinking....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 12:00 AM	Be too busy to listen when they try to add on to your already overloaded schedule....grin...my Mom would say "Learn to say no."...like that ever worked...grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 12:03 AM	my assigment was written in stone, you just slog through till it's done
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 25, 2009 12:48 AM	It sure does look like your can tree is growing Kassy. I think it's a keeper;-) Lynnie, sound's like your a very busy lady. Jean hope you have had a great day and hope you get your palm correctly identified. Dave, Your welcome here anytime and you have just got to show the cluster of flower's on that Pinanga caesia of your's! I love the Taro's and I actually have one in bloom "I think"! Smiling all over myself. Adding a pic of the campsite lizard's that hang out on the mountain land. Hope everyone is doing well and has had a great day. Rachel View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 25, 2009 12:50 AM	This one think's he/she is hidden. View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 25, 2009 12:53 AM	Maidenhair fern. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 01:02 AM	Cool Lizards Rachel. I love them. Are those Eastern fence swifts? Figured out the palm is a clustering fish tail....Caryota mitis.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 01:03 AM	I have NO chocolate in the house...grrr... that lizard is starting to look tasty.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 01:09 AM	fern or weed? View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 25, 2009 01:13 AM	Ha, Lynnie! You got to catch those lizard's first. Your plant is a fern......you can call it a weed though if you would like.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 25, 2009 01:23 AM	Jean, I have no idea what kind of lizard's those are. They have just been hanging around that site for a few year's. They have gotten kind of use to my voice and stayed long enough for me to capture a picture or two of them yesterday. Here is another picture of a very cool plant that I admire when I see it here. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 02:33 AM	How neat. Now, is that just pushing out of the ground buds or just pushing out of the ground fungus? A rather ethereal looking little guy. Gee Lynnie, my next suggestion was gonna be Cocoa and cinnamon toast....sorry.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 03:07 AM	K I posted AK pics on the wrong thread but you'll just have to go there to check the rest out cause I'm not reloading them :) Here are the two last pics I was going to post then you have to go to Basil Mint and other goodies, man I just can't keep up LOL! Glacier close up and glacier harbor seal coming up View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 03:08 AM	one cold seal View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 03:13 AM	Reminds me of Wisconsin in the winter
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 03:14 AM	Gosh...the striations in that ice are fascinating. Great pics Ican.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 03:18 AM	LOL Wisconsin after the roads are carved out?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 03:29 AM	You got it
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 03:36 AM	Hey Ican, we have become a rock band of gypsy rebels....everyone has a rock name....How about Ididarock for you?
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 03:37 AM	Hmmm, don't know, kind of suggestive LOL. Ya, I have a dirty mind.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 03:41 AM	LOL Ican
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 03:48 AM	It is at least a double entendre....maybe triple if ya through in Tim Curry....
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 04:06 AM	K, you have to explain the Tim Curry reference to me, a little slow sometimes LOL!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 04:15 AM	Well it's not on my home page! And I almost didn't make it back in. Had to have them e-mail me my password.......good thing I remembered what e-mail account I used or I would have been sunk.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 04:18 AM	LOL! Glad you made it back! What thread are you guys talking about? Now I'm curious! :)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 04:21 AM	OK hold on, i'll find what Jean put in. Have you seen Dave or Jim? Jim should have gotten the seeds today I think.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 04:27 AM	Here Ican, this is what Jean put in Good Afternoon, Kassy. Hey, Dixiegril's thread in plant ID is being used as a" what's happening on DG" on the Home page...even mentions gypsies...grin I logged out and didn't find it.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 04:51 AM	Ah! Thank you! I'll take a look around to. Maybe it got pulled for mentioning gypsies LOL!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 25, 2009 04:58 AM	Hey Kassy I think I found the thread, http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1030557/
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 05:29 AM	LOL, thank Ican, I'll check it out now... I was reading a d-mail, someone in florida want's some of my plants.... How many things to you think they will have on their list that will make it though a Wisconsin winter? LOL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 05:36 AM	To answer that question..........3 things, and one of those I already have!
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 10:55 AM	Ican cool pics! Awesome! Moon...Tim Curry... Rocky Horror Picture Show?? lol Ican I had another name for you, Rockon? Like that one better? rachel that fern was growing on the wall of the mine.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 11:25 AM	Iditarock=iditarod Iditarock=Tim Curry's song ' I do the rock' Iditarock=Dwayne Johnson, The Rock Sorry Kassy...didn't mean for you to get lost....
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 11:42 AM	Ican just checked out your other pictures...now I want to go back! Boy it sure looks nice & cool there...still muggy here...I think I have corn stalks in my backyard, there's some monster weeds out there right now. glacier cruise & fresh from the oven chocolate chip cookies?? Count me in :)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 11:48 AM	Your corn stalks are probably Johnson grass....it can get huge and looks like corn, sort of. How weird...62 degrees this morning...set a record. Gonna get up to 92....30 degree stretch...almost like fall.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 25, 2009 06:06 PM	Hi all. Welcome home Ican, enjoyed your pics. Good looking kid, favor Mom or Pop? Long day yesterday, didn't get her into surgery until 3 p.m. Got home about seven in bed by nine. Surgery went well, nothing unforseen. Doc is sure it is benign and probably won't come back. If it does it is a very slow growing type and she will die of old age before it gives her trouble again. May have to go to Jackson, Miss. for a surgery tomorrow. Waiting to find out. Got another Friday but it is at a local hospital. Got the seeds in the mail yesterday, Kassy. How deep do I need to plant them? Thought I might plant some in a container that I could move in the green house with cold weather. Does the sage need to go in the ground or can I plant it in a container? Got to get to the rehab. Talk to you guys later. Got three visits to make this afternoon. Gees, I need to be gardening. Maybe if I do HIS work HE"ll bless my work.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 08:09 PM	He will certainly bless you, Jim. Good news on your friend. I know it means a lot to have you in their corner. Take care and don't get too run down.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 08:20 PM	Jim, I just sent you 2 sites, one on chives and one on sage, and yes, a sage plant can be growen in the house.........That huge one that is in my flower bed started out in the house.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 08:54 PM	Yikes I'm ready for a coffee break! We've been out all day, hairdresser, mall, school supplies, new duds, and groceries....scored some of those big cookies at the mall (it's ok I had salad for lunch) had to have 'em after Ican put the idea in my head. I've been mentally planning my privacy border...I have those 3 evergreens (one white eastern pine, 2 fat albert spruces) and I was thinking a yellowish tree (honeylocust?) and a mimosa tree, & shrubs for birds/bees/butterflies...viburnum, lilac, rhodies, witch hazel...then it will end at the rock garden/fountain area which will have some evergreens around it.... what do you all think? Where has Dave been? Jim get some rest!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 09:01 PM	Sounds like work....pretty and varied, but work....grin. seriously, just make sure you balance your evergreens in your privacy border so you don't wind up with big gaps of naked trees and shrubs all winter. I am a bit concerned about Dave since his ER trip. Haven't seen him around much. Hope he is just really busy.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 09:10 PM	Maybe he is carb loading...hopefully just busy. Yes, I'll try to balance the border....I'll put some more evergreens in the mix, there are so many cool ones out there...that website you posted a link to was awesome!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 09:14 PM	I am so glad it helped. I made the mistake when I did my very first border of not mixing and spacing evergreens....had huge gaps of naked stuff with the odd evergreen here and there...sort of defeated the purpose. and increaces the workload astronomically having to move stuff.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 09:32 PM	I'm glad you mentioned it, I probably wouldn't have thought of it. I was good about planting evergreens around the other bed, but that was because I had "extras." The shrubs I picked flower at different times, and the trees are for height (although everything will be small for a while!) and I was just going for whatever I like, since I won't care about messy leaf drop or anything.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 25, 2009 10:09 PM	That's the way to go. I think you of the best song lines is "Can't please everyone, just got to please yourself" odd that the song is Garden Party...grin You should plant the things you love and enjoy, after all, you'll have to care for it...grin The difference between landscaping and gardening is simply that a landscaper chooses plants to fit a set design and a gardener plants the things they love and creates haven. I'll never have a" landscape", but I will grow what I choose to plant.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 25, 2009 11:34 PM	I'm with you there Jean I love my flowers. I just planted another small sweet williams that is red and that I grew from seed. It had just started to blossom. I'm hoping the little thing will make it though the winter. I have a bigger one that just won't bloom for some reason! I have a feeling I'm going to be trying to talk me BF into bringing some of the potted things into the house
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 25, 2009 11:47 PM	Kassy my friend has one of those sweet william, nice plant.....it's a shade plant, isn't it? Or am I getting confused with sweet woodruff?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 12:06 AM	Just tell him it is part of a basement beautification program geared to making you happy over the winter....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 12:49 AM	No Lynn, sweet williams are dianthus.............I just have a few colors of them. Only sending about 6 different colors of seeds from them to someone who asked for them. I have to wait until the last two that just blossomed set seeds so I can collect them. Hopefully but the next time I am up at his place. Jean, we can't use the basement. Were up north where it gets very cold and to top it off, he burns wood. He has oil as a back up that kicks in if the house is too cold when he is at work. But so far he is not working. Trust me, old one room school house were not that well insulater. I know, and I remember how high my mom's oil bill was to heat hers too. So the plants with have to join us in the living room................LOL Well some can go in the laundry room, nice south window there for them. This is one of my sweet williams or dianthus. And I'm still trying to figure out where this color came from.........LOL View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 12:55 AM	Seeds have a tendency to revert sometimes, or to just go off in their own direction. grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 01:04 AM	oh I love dianthus...
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:06 AM	Here you go Lynn, we just have a few View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:08 AM	And View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:10 AM	Oh and this is the color that very light pink one should have been. Jean, I'm thinking it got cross polinated with my pink peony poppies View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 01:14 AM	Kassy I had a few plants with that coloration from a packet of mixed dianthus seeds. I truly love them and every year tuck a few more in here and there. The fragrance is delightful and they ask for so little.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 01:20 AM	very pretty Kassy! :) as good as the big chocolate chip cookie I had today and those are sun plants, aren't they?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:24 AM	Yes, they love the sun View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:28 AM	But tell me what color this one is.........not real red and not pink.....hmmmmm View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 26, 2009 01:29 AM	Hi everyone. Good to see you back Jim and nice to read that the surgery went good. Keep us up-dated when you can. You are a fine man for all that you do for the good Lord up-above and he sure will reward you for all your work's;-) Icanfindroom, good to see you too. I enjoyed your picture's but it just look's so darn cold there;-) Hi Kassy pretty flower's as usual. Jean that corpse plant is Monotropa uniflora. Lynnie, you are a busy Lady as usual;-) Hope all has had a great day.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 26, 2009 01:41 AM	Hows'it Folks! I'm back, thanks for the concern. Rachel's right, I was very busy; I was cleaning my CP of viruses that shut my machine down yesterday morning. Cool Lizards and Indian Pipe plants, Monotropa uniflora, Rachel! Your place must be very pristine. I'd love to see that. What happen to the storm? Hopefully inland didn't get what the coast got. Looks like everyone is gardening, getting ready for school and work, or chasing glaciers. Life is good!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 01:51 AM	Good evening Rachel, Dave. Good to see you guys. Rachel, I really like the Indian Pipes. So cool. Dave, we were just worried you might be having further problems. Glad it was CPU and not you. Cool, Band o' gypsies is complete. all present and accounted for...or fairly accountable...grin Kassy, that color my dear is Gypsy Rose....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:55 AM	Dave, do you remember the virus that was out one year that found a hole in windows and would come though and shut computers down after you booted them up? It was a number of years back, and I know some of my chat friends got hit with it, and so did my BF but that was before he was my BF. My son was working as a teck support at our interent provider at the time. When they went into work and booted up the computers, all of them shut down except two of them. One was a mac. And they other one had just had undates done on it the day before. They fielded hundreds of calls that day. He called here and asked if mine was ok. I had not booted it up yet at that point. He told me to boot it up. I did and it stayed running . Because we have a external modum for all of our computers, he thinks that worked as a fire wall and kept the worm from coming into mine. He downloaded that patch for it when he got home that night.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 01:56 AM	LOL Jean
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 01:57 AM	cheers, the gang's all here!
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 26, 2009 01:57 AM	It's about time you showed up Dave. Now where is the picture's of the Pinanga caesia in bloom;-) Edit: My place "pristine", thank's but it can not even start to compare to your home in Hawaii! Thank's much though.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 26, 2009 02:27 AM	Here is the Pinanga caesia bloom Rachel. I'll try to be good and show up on time from now on! You may be right Kassy. The virus is known as a "Windows PE EXE" that attacks one's start up program. It is supposed to have gotten in on an advertising code. I had three programs that needed to be cleaned. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 02:34 AM	Man do those palms have strange blooms, kinda like the caryota gigas dreadlocks...grin It is sorta of like family Dave...do what you want and need to do, just check in so we know everyone is okay...grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 02:38 AM	weird but cool....
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 26, 2009 02:44 AM	Wait until that bloom of Dave's open's and spread's it's pollen Jean. Dave, it's just bred in us female's to worry from time to time. We can't help ourselve's!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 02:46 AM	If we don't worry who will? Part of what keeps the human race rolling forward...grin Just as long as I can stay upwind of it Rachel...I sneeze enough on my own...lol
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 02:52 AM	lol ok, I'm off to bed, g'night gang!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 02:58 AM	Nite Lynn Yes, I was just doing a search on it Dave. Those type of things are not nice to get. I take care of my BF computer when I'm up there. I have a spyware program on his that I run every now and then.................Lord only knows where his daughter goes with it!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 26, 2009 03:11 AM	Here is the same bloom dropping pollen. Thanks for all the worries; I'm not used to that. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 03:14 AM	Get use to it Dave :p
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 26, 2009 03:27 AM	Very cool pictures Dave. I lost my last computer to a virus a friend sent me by forwarding a joke. We both had to replace out computers. Viruses suck. How bored do you have to be to try to think up ways to make peoples lives more difficult and expensive? Man I'm gone for a little while and look what I missed. I'm all "Surgery what surgery? Rehab? ER visits? What the???" Glad it sounds like everyone's o.k. Geez! On a better note, mmmmmm....chocolate chip cookies..... Jim ~ my son used to look like me but now oddly he sorta looks like my ex-husbands half brother (who looks nothing like my ex-husband), go figure. He still has my hair and eye color though :) O.k., o.k. I know Rocky Horror Picture show. I get the Idida thing now. Like I said, little slow here. "It's just a jump to the left..." Come on sing it everyone! What names has everyone picked for themselves? Need a brain update to keep up.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 03:31 AM	Time to herd the teen-ager thru the shower and into bed....hibernating bear is easier to wake up....Night all.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 03:32 AM	BF on messenger right now, back in a few
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 26, 2009 03:46 AM	I am not real religious, but considering my past number of days, I got to thinking about my origins. This is known as my "Family Bible". It is a photo-copy of the original, which I have never seen. It was owned by Philip Paul. You'll notice that the date on the cover is long before the Roman Church gave permission to folks to own a Bible. Further evidence of being a Rebel / Gypsy / Protestant! View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 03:55 AM	That is really special, Dave. Neat history. G'Night...sweet sleep.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 04:07 AM	Wow, that goes back a long ways!
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 26, 2009 04:07 AM	My computer is smarter than me. When my tech friend set up my lap top he put all kinds of goodies on it. I don't know what half of them are or how they work. The other morning when I booted up I had a big warning "YOU HAVE A VIRUS." Then the darn thing asked me what I wanted to do with it. Well, I clicked on one of the options and the darn thing told me that was a bad choice and wouldn't do it. So I just kept clicking until it did what it wanted to do with it any way. (Scratch head) Does that make since. Hi Dave and good night all.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 04:11 AM	Oh Ican, we had a client stay with us for 2 weeks, because his parents were on a cruise in AK........Maybe the one that you mentioned!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 26, 2009 04:12 AM	Nite Jim
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 12:32 PM	Morning! I just read through the other thread, didn't realize how much I'd missed, Moon I'm glad your husband is ok. Where did you get the 5 yr old? Do we need to start another thread?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 12:53 PM	I don't think we need to jump, looking at the numbers of other threads...maybe we can do what the orchid folks do and start a new one at the beginning of the month.....grin The 5y/o was with his dad waiting while his mom was in o/p surgery.....had my book and was set for some escapism reading....two pages into the book and he was sitting beside me asking about the Aboriginal art on my tote.....shortly after that he was in my lap playing I Spy and Guess the Animal......made for a long wait. grin Let's do the Time Warp again....cosmic thrusters at ready...grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 26, 2009 01:00 PM	funny, that happens to me ALL the time... kids and dogs...even that party Sunday, a little one ran up to me before each jump into the pool "watch me!." He was cute as anything though.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 26, 2009 01:04 PM	I swear I have Sucker for kids in flashing lights on my forehead....penance for lack of patience I guess....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 12:47 AM	Wow, last post was at 7:04 AM and it's after 7 PM here now.....Hmmmmmm
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 12:54 AM	We knew you were sleeping and were trying to be quiet....grin. Good evening kassy.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 12:58 AM	LOL Jean, good evening
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 01:02 AM	evening gang! I went out & looked at that giant weed that you said might be Johnson grass Moon...it was scary..had whiteflies and big ants all over it, and the stalk was huge & I decided I was leaving that for my husband to dispose of, too creepy for me lol
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 01:06 AM	you know what, I just compared pics & mine really does look like a cornstalk.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:09 AM	Lynn, are you sure the chipmunks didn't plant some there from a bird feeder? They were real good at planting ours around the lawn.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 01:13 AM	there's a lot of farms around me, so it's possible it's a corn stalk....I don't know why I find them so creepy, probably because of Children of the Corn lol did any of you see that? the squirrels plant a lot of acorns for me, but never in the right place, maybe I could draw them a map.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:18 AM	LOL ok, I want to see this.........Lynn, just where do you live? Because I'm coming to watch them read the map
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 01:30 AM	lol they must know their way around to bury the things in the first place & expect to dig them back up later. They seem to like putting them in the mulched beds. when I pull the sprouting acorns up and put them in pots they reclaim them.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 27, 2009 01:37 AM	Hello everyone. Ok you guy's...where is a picture of this supposive corn plant? Hope everyone has had a great day.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:38 AM	BF has 2 black walnut trees that the chipmunks just love. One year he planted a bunch in a pot to try to get them to sprout. It has to be left outside in the cold.......Chipmunks are not dumb, they dug them all up and ate them on him!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:41 AM	I sure did Rachel, they kept it quite here so I could sleep Back to work tonight.........for 4 nights. Then vacation again.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 27, 2009 01:52 AM	Kassy, if you want a black walnut tree seedling......just let me know! I can send you one or two of those. Have fun at work;-)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:54 AM	This is what the bird planted where I work. I dug it out and took it to my BF's garden. View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 27, 2009 01:56 AM	Lovely sunflower Kassy. Hope it re-seed's for you.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:57 AM	Thanks Rachel, but he was just trying to see if he could get more to grow, and thinking about planting them at the forty if they do. He has 2 black walnut trees at his house, and one is loaded with black walnuts. The trick is to get to them before the chipmunks do.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 01:59 AM	Thanks Rachel........I saved it's life, because where I work they would have just pulled it as a weed.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 02:00 AM	that's pretty....wouldn't mind those. if I get the nerve to go out to the scary stalk tomorrow I'll get a picture. If Malakai gets me I did it for you guys
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 02:18 AM	Somehow I don't think one stalk will give Malachai enough place to lay in wait.....he's just not that skinny....grin Hi Rachel....how goes it this evening?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 02:18 AM	Oh Lynn, you would have been in trouble at my mom's place. Her garden had corn in it every year. When I was taking care of her one year, my nephew swore that I watered the corn, because it was taller then him. He lived right next door and hardly had any corn. He planted to early the first time and most of it froze out, and when it replanted it was too dry so that didn't grow either.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 02:22 AM	Has anyone seen Dave around? I told him I wished I could send my son over to take care of his computer for him. I'm thinking he is still having computer problems :(
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 05:01 AM	Hi folks, I've been doing research for a couple non-profits that I work with (Big Island Native Plant Society & Malama O Puna). The BINPS is soon launching a web-site that I will be moderator of. One of the features will be a photo library of Big Island plants (you'se have seen several of the photos already). I agree with Rachel; let's see that funny kind corn plant!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 07:45 AM	Here is hard work paying off! I hilled up soil and fertilized my Dendrocalamus stricta, Iron Bamboo, at the beginning of the Summer, and the plant looks like it is going to double in size, putting out several new shoots. This is one of them. View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 08:08 AM	"Hey Dave, a little help over here, why don't ya?" Here is Kea a few months ago, giving garden advice. View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 08:20 AM	cute! is that bamboo behind him (or her)?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 08:28 AM	This is Buddha Belly Bamboo, Bambusa ventricosa. View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 08:35 AM	buddha belly ha I like it! I saw a house somewhere with the coolest stand of black bamboo in the yard...I don't know if that spreads like other types, but it sure looked cool. I think it was in Maine.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 08:39 AM	Yes, Kea loves her Bamboo. Here is Bambusa vulgaris 'Vittata'. View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 08:43 AM	Kea looks grumpy...I think you're bothering her....
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 08:58 AM	Hi Lynnie, you're up early. You're Black Bamboo is probably the same a Jean's: Phyllostegia nigra var. nigra. This is Schizostachyum glaucifolium, Hawaiian 'Ohe! View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 09:18 AM	Oops! The Bamboo genus was supposed to be Phyllostachys not Phyllostegia, which is a Hawaiian Mint. I'm firing the Editor! This is Phyllostegia floribunda an endangered Hawaiian Rainforest Mint! View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 09:30 AM	Everyone has their own tastes. Personally I like Bamboo and Hawaiian Mint. It didn't bother Kea that much either. She got her doggie treat / biscuit; that was our agreement! View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 11:30 AM	I went back to sleep for a while, fortunately! Bamboo & mint, I like it. Are you propagating these endangered species?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 12:43 PM	Dave, that bamboo is gorgeous.....I wish I had the space and wherewithall to plant them all. I do love bamboo....shame DHJim doesn't....well not in his yard....grin Kea looks like she could keep you in line if necessary....grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 01:52 PM	here's the big weed.... View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 02:38 PM	Oh No, Lynnie, you have corn and it has white flies....grin. But, you have nothing to worry from Malachai...he would never let the children's corn have pests...what a trade off. Grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 06:19 PM	I can't propagate the Hawaiian Mint, it lives in a rare old growth rain forest. I do propagate Bamboo; here is part of the Bamboo nursery. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 06:21 PM	Dave, what have you been doing to Kea? In the first picture she looks scared, and in the next one she looks mad...............LOL And Dave, that picture was not at the forty! The other one you posted sure looked like it was though! Big scarry corn Lynn.................LOL Sure looks like corn to me. We have a whole field of it next to my BF's....Should I take a picture of the big field of it? Never know, I might find Malachai.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 06:23 PM	Hmmmmmm......a Bamboo nursery..............Hmmmmm Do they favor pink or blue?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 06:28 PM	I think they favor green, Kassy.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 06:38 PM	probably not even good corn, either, probably cow corn....Malakai is probably living in the playhouse. Jim you could fix that corn of pests pretty quick, I bet. I saw aphids on it too. It's keeping the pests away from my other plants,though. I hope. lol
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 06:48 PM	That's how I feel about asclepsias, milk weed. The aphids bunch up on it and pretty much leave the rest alone. Living in the playhouse.....weedeedoodooo, weedeedoodooo...twilight zone music......grin Nice looking bamboo, Dave. So you gonna be running a website? That is too cool. Good on you, sounds like important stuff being worked on.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 06:58 PM	Hi Jean, I'll be answering questions about Hawaiian plants, and maintaining that no one gets nasty on the forum. I guess I'll holding the all powerful delete button.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 27, 2009 07:04 PM	Dave you'll be administration!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 07:08 PM	OH OH, he would delete us :(
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 07:22 PM	Naaahhh, but he might make us start a new thread...LOL Hey, Dave, you'll have to figure out if there is room for gypsies there.....grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 07:23 PM	No chance of that Kassy!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 07:26 PM	Dave! HELP! I need that e-mail address again!!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 07:29 PM	The guy who is designing the web-site is a former Grateful Dead roadie and spent a lot of time hanging out at what was known as the "Hog Farm". I'm sure gypsies and rebels are welcome!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 07:32 PM	Which e-mail address Kassy?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 07:39 PM	We would even promise to behave....wouldn't want to embarrass you....grin That is too cool.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 07:46 PM	Dave, the e-mail to send the picture of the Sicyos to........I wouldn't do it at my BF's on dial up because when you get something typed out and ready to send and hit send, your off line 9 time out of 10. I scrolled back though 3 of our theads and didn't find it. Can you give it to me again please
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 27, 2009 08:02 PM	I think it was this one Kassy. Dr. James Solomon Curator of Missouri Botanical Garden Herbarium jim.solomon@mobot.org
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 27, 2009 08:17 PM	Thanks Dave I have it saved on my computer now and will be able to find it, unless my hard drive blows. Way past bed time for me. Nite
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 27, 2009 08:40 PM	Have a good night Kassy, don't let'em work ya too hard.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 28, 2009 01:15 AM	Tremendous new's to read here Dave. We will try our best to behave on the BINPS website when you become Moderator;-) Sure look's like corn at this stage to me to Lynnie. Who is Malachai? I missed something somewhere. Kassy, whishing you fun at work. Moon, doing well here and hope you are too. It's going to take me a little bit to get caught up on the Slug thread......geesh, I have gotten way behind! Hope all are having and has had a tremendous day. Rachel
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 01:24 AM	Hi ya, Rachel. Malachai is from The Children of the Corn., a horror novel turned movie series by Stephen King.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 28, 2009 01:35 AM	I kind of figured Jean but was not sure being that I never watched that movie or read the book;-)
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 01:45 AM	watch the movie, you'll never look at a cornfield the same way again! lol
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 01:46 AM	Not a fan of the horror genre myself, Rachel.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 01:50 AM	neither am I, I'm sure a boyfriend talked me into it.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 01:51 AM	Looking to be the hero and protect you no doubt....grin
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 28, 2009 01:53 AM	I hear you Lynnie. I will make a note to watch this movie sometime's. I remember watching some Freddy Krueger movie's that had my full attention at the time.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 28, 2009 02:11 AM	I'm trying to get in the groove with you girls. Bought a pretty pot of Sweet Basil today, also 2 small pot of cilantro. Got coliflower, cabbage, broccoli, and eight tomatoes to plant. Now to find time before they die.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 02:15 AM	Oh boy...pesto and Mexican food and stir fry...way to go Jim.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 02:17 AM	I don't remember anything about the movie but corn stalks creep me out now lol
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 02:18 AM	Jim how do I get whiteflies off my corn?
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 28, 2009 02:22 AM	1 gal of water laced heavily with ivory dish washing liquid. Get the underside of the leaves. Got any malathion throuh in a capful of that.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 02:27 AM	thanks! I don't have any malathion but I'll do the dish soap thing...kids are interested in the corn. They never saw the movie, though! my African basil is still going like crazy.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 28, 2009 02:31 AM	I agree with Jim as well. I add a bit of Rubbing Alcohol too.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 02:32 AM	Think I am gonna call it a night....have a sweet sleep everyone. Ican, sorry I missed you. I'll catch up tomorrow. Night, Lynnie, Jim and Rachel. Talk tomorrow.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 02:34 AM	g'night Moon (haha didn't realize till I said it)
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 28, 2009 02:50 AM	Never tried the alcohol but will give it a shot. White flies are pesky little buggers and hard to keep away. I had never seen them really hurt anything very much until this year and they completely killed part of Jo's purple verbena.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:06 AM	LOL! I'm always getting online when everyone is going to sleep. Time differences...sigh. Well here is a crappy picture of my new Spindle Palm I just had to bring home because it's well, fabulous. And hey! It was free! Of course as I was folding down my back seats and moving my front seat as far up as it would go wondering if I'd be able to get the back hatch closed (and remember I have a 4runner) I began to wonder about my sanity. However desire is a powerful motivator and indeed I managed to fit that baby in. :) I had another sanity questioning moment when I dragged into my place (even my neighbors took note when I lugged it out of my car) but once again I had to have this palm so something was gonna get moved or whatever to fit it. After shoving my living room furniture around and surveying, then moving, etc., for I have no idea how long I realized it would be fine if I just moved my love seat out about a foot from it's original position. Ugh. SO I moved everything back and now get to go look for a stunning pot to match such a fabulous plant. Of course I really just enjoy shopping for stunning pots but you know how it goes. Lynnie you are too funny about the corn. I saw children of the corn. Maybe that's why I like to include stalks in my halloween decor...bwahahahaha! Jim, I have a friend who has one of the little counter plant growers. Forgive me but I can't recall the name of those stupid things (I say stupid in a nice way, I want one really bad) but it is SO cool! She has all sorts of flowers in it and you can grow herbs too. That way they won't die this winter. I drool on it religiously. If I could move some plants off my counter I could probably find room for one. Working on that. You should look into it. Oh wait, here it is, it's the AeroGrow AeroGarden. Check it out and see if you can figure why I haven't bought one yet LOL! Other than counter space I mean :) http://www.amazon.com/AeroGrow-AeroGarden-Gourmet-Herb-Seed/... View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 03:21 AM	Hi Ican, does the palm have a blue crownshaft?
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:23 AM	K better picture, the other was to attempt to show how close to the ceiling it was but really it's just a crappy picture. And yes there is a rubbermaid container in this picture. It's sorta embarrassing but I put it there to take to my shed when I moved in and my dog started using it as a look out for the window. Since he often uses it to watch me leave when I go to work I am a lush and leave it there. View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:23 AM	No blue, just orange.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:40 AM	Speaking of spooky and corn, anyone have any good Halloween shots? I know, I know, it's early, but with the Rocky Horror reference and corn it got me thinking. always wanted to give a kick a halloween party in my garden in WA but I didn't want da drunkards to trample or, ahem, "water" my plants (blush). I had a good narrow back yard and side yard for it though. Someday :) I used to decorate the heck out of the front of my house though. In my last neighborhood I would wear a costume for the kids too. I was one of the only houses in our neighborhood to decorate so all the kids would check it out. It was lots of fun. One Halloween my next door neighbor came by with her 5 year old. She was already scared from coming down the covered entry (kids are scared so easily aren't they?) when my ex answered the door. She was so freaked out. Sadly my ex called me to come to the door to put her at ease and I had just finished making myself look freaky for the other kids. I thought he called me there for entertainment value so I jumped out with a big "raaaaa!" Ya that pretty much did it. I think we terrorized her for life poor thing LOL!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 03:41 AM	Could you show a close-up of the fronds and leaflets. It does not look like a Spindle Palm, Hyophorbe vershaffeltii.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:49 AM	Will do! I'll do it tomorrow with my camera rather than my cell phone, and with better light. Was told it was a Spindle Palm but proper ID would be great! :)
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 03:56 AM	Just a guess, but maybe Raphia farinifera, the Raffia or Flour Palm.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 04:07 AM	Found this pic online, it still says Spindle Palm but I'm wondering if their using it as a generic classification? This is basically what it looks like though. Did a search on the Flour Palm, I'm thinking the fronds aren't quite a match? View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 04:33 AM	Have a look at some other photos of Hyophorbe verschaffeltii. The above picture that you found online does not look right for the species. I just looked at a young Hyophorbe lagenicaulis, Bottle Palm, and it looks a lot like the photo.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 05:21 AM	I'll take some pics of the base and fronds tomorrow, that will help. Lovely plant though! Absolutely the focal point of my living room, of course it's approx. 7' tall LOL! It's by my front door though. Not sure how that will go in the winter, which is coming fast. I may have to rearrange again. All I can say is it's a very good thing I'm a bachlorette with no one to complain. My dad about fell over when he walked in. My son wasn't surprised (good boy). The pic. shows in the background my only sunny window. I only have a Ficus Alii & Glauca in that one with a Philodendron Congo Rojo & a Spathiphyllum Domino at the base & a very thin rescued Dracaena Warneckii is visible. I don't have the heart to chop it down for new growth. The other wall, my kitchen and office are packed. I admit that when I placed that baby (the palm) I began to wonder if I'm like one of those cat ladies with 100 cats running around the house. Hmmmmm. When do you have too many plants?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 28, 2009 09:50 AM	you never have too many plants. Halloween here is a almost a holiday, Ican. House decorated, smoke machine going, costumes, big pot of soemthing creole on the stove, (now that I know what I'm cooking) We usually get 100 kids or more, depends. That palm is huge!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 12:16 PM	Congrats on the new baby Ican. Naahh, it only gets weird when the plants start talking to you.....like the corn....telling Lynnie to save it from white flies....teasing , Lynnie. Samhain has always been my favorite Holiday....unfortunately, that isn't so with the neighbors....they turn off their lights, or even leave til TorT is over..11 homes on our end of the road and only one with lights....sad. GSJordan is officially too old to partake in the sugar rush... When my oldest son was 16, he dressed as a scarecrow and sat out front with a big bowl of candy on his lap with a signe telling Treaters to help themselves, but not be greedy. Most kids would take a handful and move on and as they moved away he would wish them a Happy Hallowe'en without moving...spooked them a little and added to the excitement...one kid about 8 or 9 came up with his mother who read the sign and said" Nobody's out here just fill your bag and let's go" After the kid took his first handful and reached for more, James caught him by the wrist and said "Don't be greedy, one handful to a customer" The kid started screaming that something had him and his mother took off running down the street alone.....leaving the kid in the clutches of the Boogun.....so much for motherly love and mama tiger instincts...DHJim and I were sitting on the porch laughing at first, then apalled at her reaction. James and I calmed the kid and DHJim went after the mother....who had wet herself mid-flight and came back with curses and law suit threats....The kid was laughing and saying it was the best Hallowe'en ever.....I still can't believe the mother ran away and left the kid to whatever fate awaited him. An hour later a police officer showed up, heard the story from us, laughed and said he wondered how she would have explained wet clothes and no child if it had been a real Boogun...of course she didn't tell the officer any of that when she filed an assault complaint...which the officer trashed along with a dozen or so snicker wrappers....grin
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 03:47 PM	Wow what a great mom. Like you said, so much for mama tiger instincts. My son always wanted to do the candy bowl thing. It seems that no one trick or treats where I am now. Safety stuff, everyone goes to malls or functions etc rather than door to door. Ah well. So far my plants haven't started talking to me so guess I'm safe for now :) Maybe I should plant some corn...
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 05:00 PM	Dave, I saw your Lambric beer at the store the other day and eyeballed it. They only had the cherry version in a small bottle so before I invest in the rather large steroid bottle of raspberry I wanted to double check the flavor :) I had a raspberry ale at a local pub and it was a lot like drinking raspberry jam, a bit too sweet. I've had some really really good ones though. So what's the best description here? Is it bitter at all? I tend to lean toward stouts, browns, and ambers and not like IPA's or German beers. Have you had the cherry version before? Waiting for word to see if I want to try this baby!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 05:09 PM	LOL, I love the Halloween stories........Cute! And Ican, I checked out that AeroGrow AeroGarden..........awwwwww, come on, it's on sale.................LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 05:12 PM	You could learn to balance the computer on your knees and put the AeroGrow on your desk....grin....it si on sale, afterall....LOL
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 05:19 PM	Yes, yes, I saw the sale... Sigh. It's much like the palm isn't it. As I was trying to be responsible and think out whether I really had space for it or not, I finally decided the cat "bed" may have to go. Thankfully it all worked out. View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 05:21 PM	My cat was pretty much in awe of the palm. He looked at it like it was the biggest cat treat he'd ever seen. When I got up this morning I found him on the couch admiring it. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 05:32 PM	LOL, your lucky he wasn't trying to eat it. I got one that I have to watch..........she likes my BF Parlor Palm...........and I mean to eat, a piece here and one there.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 05:41 PM	Oh I know he was dreaming of it, the drool running down his chin gave him away. He get's the no thing. We went through all that while he was "innocently" sniffing the leaf and looking sideways at me. You know the cat look. So far he's being the perfect kitty and just adding to his jungle cat collection. We'll see how next week goes while I'm at work though ;)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 05:55 PM	The claw marks on the ceiling will be a dead give away....grin "Who me? No way! Purrrrrrr"
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 06:06 PM	LOL! Ya, "purrrrr," they're good at that aren't they? I have carpet torn up by my office door because I close it when I leave for work. I kept blaming the dog until I caught my cat tearing at it one day trying to open the door. He's actually gotten it open. I'd come home from work and think "Didn't I close that on the way out?" Poor dog. I never realized a cat could do so much damage to carpet. "puuuuurrrrr"
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 06:10 PM	Here's one for any Star Wars fans... View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 06:14 PM	Furry alien dead ahead and he's after my nuts......
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 06:19 PM	LOL!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:24 PM	ROTFL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:26 PM	Here is another jungle plant your cat would love...........LOL Well, I feel like it's a jungle at times!!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 06:29 PM	My witchy cat destroyed the carpet between the living room and hall cuz someone forgot to check before they closed the door for the day....but that's okay, cuz the blind Beagle, Benny ate the door facing trying to get to the cat.....I love my animals....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 06:31 PM	Hey Kassy. Put a daylily pic on Basil mint and other goodies thread for you. If you like it, I can give you some.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:31 PM	hey, why didn't my picture come in...............trying again! View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 06:32 PM	Cherry Lambic (Kriek) is the best one! I'm going to attempt downloading AVG anti-virus today. On dial-up it seems to take forever!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:32 PM	LOL jean on those animals
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:36 PM	You may not like that one Dave. Are you running the new windows program? I switched from AGV to Avast. It seems to work better with widows xp. What program are you running? xp?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 06:39 PM	Hi Kassy, I have Windows XP.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:43 PM	OK Dave, I would consider Avast first then. AGV my son found out seems to be set up more for windows vista.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 06:45 PM	If you ever need a free program off the net, ask me and I'll ask my son ;-) Not sure what all he can find, but he knows his way around the net.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 28, 2009 06:52 PM	Thanks, I'll have a look!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 07:00 PM	Your Welcome When I see him tonight I can ask him if any of the other ones are better. Not sure what one my nephew is running, I'll have to ask him, because he has a trogan in his computer in a hidden file somewhere. Every time he logs on and I am on it sends me this message on messenger............... (8/24/2009 11:37:05 PM): HOT!HOT! I won't put the link in.................LOL I e-mailed him to let him know he had a problem there!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 28, 2009 07:08 PM	Thanks Dave! Good timing, was just getting ready to head out on errands. Guess what I'll be checking out tonight! ooooOOOOooooo Kassy! Is that grape ivy??? Wow! My cat would be in heaven! Of course the plant would be destroyed... LOL moon. Was the blind beagle trying to be nice and let the cat out or were more sinister thoughts afoot? Man what a sight to come home to!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 28, 2009 07:16 PM	Yes Ican, that is grape ivy.. I got it when it was just a tiny thing, and now have trimmed it back many times in the 9 years I have had it. Actually my cats leave that plant alone, it's all the other ones I have to worry about. And I may be looking for a new home for it. I don't want to overwelm my BF with too many plants, or such big ones. One friend won't take it, because she is afraid she will kill it.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 28, 2009 11:15 PM	Good evening everybody. Dave thanks for the plant info. That Chipper really rattled ya Kassy....grin Ican, the dog was distressed by the cat's crying and wanted to help, of course he would have gone nuts if the cat had been near him cuz he is afraid of her....grin One day the carpet will be replaced with bamboo floors....one day.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 01:09 AM	It took over five hours, but I put free antivirus on my computer, scanned all my programs and deleted all viruses, and removed my outdated antivirus (from 2005). There were at least three "Trojans" called Win32 Trojan-gen, LdPinch-CYW, & Rootkin-gen, and there was a worm called Koobface. The new program even blocked a new virus just since I've been back on line in the past few minutes! Thanks Rachel & Kassy for helping me with that! My machine works a lot better now.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:19 AM	hi everybody....just got in....how's everyone doing?
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 01:19 AM	Geez, enough viruses on there? Wow! I'll bet it works better now! We have a little liquor store up here where you can buy singles in beer that has a great assortment. They had Lambic in raspberry, black cherry, apple & peach. I stuck with the black cherry for the time being. I did find a banana bread beer I was bold enough to buy. The gal at the register assured me it was really good...hmmm... As long as it doesn't taste like garlic beer. I'm sorry I don't care HOW much you love garlic. I love garlic. Blah! Oh Kassy Kassy Kassy, you can't give that plant up! I have a pathetic thin grape ivy I saved I still don't know what to do w/it. It should probably be transplanted. I trimmed it back and it gets new growth but the older leaves keep falling off. Dunno what the heck. I haven't had it long though. O.k. tell me your secret and don't say I dunno I just water it (that's what your gonna say isn't it). Here's the other side of my living room. I won't even go into my kitchen and office. Your BF likes plants, it'll all be fine, one at a time...like moss on a tree... View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:22 AM	Hello everybody my names Katrina, new here. just learning
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:25 AM	Hi trina, welcome! Ican how is that beer, not too sweet? i don't like it sweet either.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:29 AM	so other than beer, what is the topic of discussion if I might ask and thanks for the welcome
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 01:30 AM	It's pretty sweet. Almost like a desert wine, a sipper for me. Good though :) Like black cherry soda (or pop, or whatever ya wanna call it). O.k. Dave, here's some sorta better palm pics for ya. This one is for the trunk. View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 01:31 AM	LOL, anything and everything. Gypsies / Rebels remember? We laugh at rules! Bwahahaha!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 01:33 AM	Next pic for Dave, close up of the fronds. Does that help? Can take more. :) View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:37 AM	Trina we mostly show our plants and sometimes go off topic esp with food & drink.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:38 AM	I have had blueberry beer, that was way too sweet for me. I don't even like sugar in coffee though.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 01:39 AM	cool anybody have any ideas on how to keep dogs and cats out of my flower gardens other than shooting them with an airsoft gun like my husband suggested
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 02:11 AM	Trina honey if you come up with an answer for that we'll nominate you for empress of the gypsy band...LOL Welcome to basil world... My DH (dear husband) Jim uses a paintball gun with a light charge...stings like fire for a second or two(yup, tried it on ourselves first), but more importantly it makes a loud pop that scares the heck out of them....that and a lot of hissing and barking at them...grin Ican, practicing for Hallowe'en, are we? The raspberry lambic we had was slightly sweet with a touch of tart to it. Can't handle the cloying sweet stuff. Your houseplants are gorgeous. I love the containers, especially the one doing double duty for the dog and cat toys...grin Dave, glad you finally got a grip on those worms....people that purposely try to muck up other folks' computers ought to be flayed and dipped in salt....often. Grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 02:26 AM	Hi Ican, I think you might have a Bottle Palm, Hyophorbe lagenicaulis. The young plants have fronds with an orange mid-rib, that get large and gently arched with a twist. Your plant looks a bit etiolated from growing indoors.) It is closely related to a Spindle Palm, Hyophorbe vershaffeltii. The fronds are sharply arched. Below is a photo of a young Bottle Palm, grown from seed. It is just a few years old. They take a long time to get large and show a bottle-like trunk. E komo mai; Welcome Katrina. The general discussion here is leaning about plants; what they are, how to grow them, things that are made from them. Please join in! Aloha, Dave View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 02:32 AM	Pictures of houseplants huh? I'd be taking pics forever then! I have over a hundred of them and then a well meaning friend just brought me over a thousand plants I have no clue what to do with it
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 02:42 AM	Show us any that are unidentified!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 02:44 AM	Ok does anyone know what this tree is? sorry the pic is so dark. When I got it it only had a few leaves and everyone swore it was dead. well I put it out on the porch when it got warm and had gained more leaves over the winter...well after being on the porch in direct sunlight it flowered! It smells great I just don't know what it is View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 02:49 AM	Or how about this one? View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 02:52 AM	That would be Nerium oleander, Oleander. Very pretty but poisonous. They like a lot of sunlight.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 02:57 AM	2nd one looks like Schefflera actinophylla 'Variegata'.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 02:59 AM	Awesome! Smells wondeful. so another of the many many many plants I have to keep the puppy away from! One of my sons is teasing me now that I need to put a sign on the door that says "Don't worry about the dogs the plants are more dangerous"
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:01 AM	THANK YOU THANK YOU...now off topic completely...I just had to share this wonderful pic someone sent to me View Larger
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 03:07 AM	Plants can be scary! Last night I caught this Yam, Dioscorea bulbifera, trying to get up and walk away. I wonder where it was planning to go?
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:09 AM	Scary? No 5 teenagers in one house is scary...I ain't afeared of no plants! LOLGive me the plants send the kids somewhere else...they are way more expensive than my gardening!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 03:13 AM	Dave, think the cpu virus might be causing a bit of hallucination....did the yam say goodbye? grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:14 AM	ok here's another dumb one from the newbie...what is this on my Datura? This was a gift from my mom & I've never had one before....about the only thing I know about them is that they are poisonous View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 03:18 AM	Those are seed pods. Wait til they turn brown before you remove them and you will have all the daturas you want...you could even offer them up for trade if you so desire.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:25 AM	heck I wish i had known that earlier...I threw a whole bunch of these away....like I said never had any before and my mom bought this mixed bag collection of daturas and burgmansias...she decided she didn't like them and sent them all to me....now do the burgmansias do that to? cause I definately don't want my grandmas puppy to get a hold of any of them
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 03:27 AM	Well, I'm getting better. I had two of them tagged except for the technical names. I've never seen a plant like the last one. Is it inside or outside? Does it flower?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 03:31 AM	I tried to load a photo of the renegade Yam twice now. The 2nd time nothing appeared at all? Hope this works. View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:32 AM	It said "double yellow devils trumpet" its inside now cause I'm pretty sure it wont survive a winter outside in Illinois!
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 03:34 AM	How far are you from the Dayton area? Got a daughter that lives at Enon about fifteen minutes from Dayton.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:40 AM	As in Dayton Ohio? I have no idea But if you mean Enion IL about 40 minutes
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 03:44 AM	I'm sorry, I was looking at where you were and thought Ohio for some reason. Guess I was thinking about my girl. Don't get to see her but at Christmas and sometime in the summer if we can get up there. It is such a long drive for two old folks to make.
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) August 29, 2009 03:48 AM	Jim Trina is about an hour south of me
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 03:48 AM	Its ok my oldest is at AIT in Fort Jackson SC I miss him terribly but I can't make the drive to see him because of a spinal chord injury.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 03:49 AM	Sounds like you need to call your daughter, Jim!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 04:01 AM	Definately call your daughter! Metrosideros do roses go dormant in the winter there in Hawaii?
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 04:18 AM	Uh oh we have another talking plant on our hands. Corn, yams, seems to be a theme here. Has anyone seen the Happening LOL! You both need frequent flier miles :) I say that but I don't have them myself. Being away from kids is hard. My mom was from Peoria Illinois :) Dad was from Frontenac Kansas, still have family there. Thanks Dave. Bottle palms are cool, works for me! Love the orange, beautiful plant. The person I got it from said it may have a virus that is causing it to spot. Maybe, or it needs a new pot & new soil possibly? Either way I'm glad to have it. House plants, pictures, share! Love to see what other people have! That way you can drool, it's almost like you have more. And wow 5 teenagers would absolutely be a handful. Man I can't even imagine LOL! Oh, you noticed the dog toy bin (sheepish grin) ya my kids are spoiled. All three of them (human,cat,dog) I spoil what can I say. One of my favorite sayings is "Life is short, someone should spoil you." I keep all the toys and put the stuffing back in with a new squeaker and sew'em up. My dog rips out the squeaker in about 5 seconds then all the stuffing and we start over again. The cat plays with arms & legs & broken squeakers from the dog toys. I picked up cat toys for him but apparently they aren't as entertaining. Sometimes I stuff catnip in the legs :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 04:25 AM	I would love to catalog all my houseplants with photos and complete descriptions, but most I don't know what they are and I have a ton of them....as for my oldest boy he comes home in october for 30 days then they are shipping him to afghanistan....I wish I could change that but I can't.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 04:27 AM	Generic plant pictures work for me :) Sorry to hear about your son. Definitely wish we could change that. Maybe if we do a gypsy dance it will work? No Afghanistan, no.... Let's set a time & decide on a dance. Hey who knows.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 04:33 AM	I didn't argue with him when he signed up...long tradition of military service in my family...he's a very smart kid. I figured he'd pick an MOS where he could go to college and expand on that and get a good job after his time was up.....but NOOOOOOO...he had to go sign up to be a tank mechanic...practicaly gauranteeing he was getting sent over there
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 04:36 AM	Roses don't go dormant here, but with all the rain, there are only a few that won't rot, such as: Rosa chinensis & Rosa x odorata. Below is Rosa chinensis 'Viridiflora', the Green Rose. Roses do better at higher drier evlevations such as Volcano and Kamuela on this Island. I would definitely repot the Bottle Palm. As it is fibrous rooted, it would be better to concentrate on a wider pot rather than taller. View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 04:37 AM	A tank mechanic. Is that relatively safe? I suppose not if you have to go out and fix it in the field. Hopefully he is the shop mechanic and stays safe.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 04:39 AM	Thanks Dave! That's good to know. I will start hunting for a wider pot. Any soil recommendations? The only palm I've had before is a Bamboo Palm.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 04:40 AM	My oldest grandson is in Marine Boot Camp. Boy has a mind that is just short of genius but this is all he has ever wanted to do. Can you believe he loves Boot Camp. He signed up for artillery. Was originally in aircraft maintenance. For some reason known only to him he changed it. Probably headed over there after artellery school.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 04:44 AM	Well, hmmmm, in one sense you can say he has drive and determination and is going after what he wants. That's a fabulous thing. On the other hand, artillery. I wish we could just get out of there.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 04:51 AM	Hey Jim would that be 62 Romeo, Air Defense Artillery, Ft. Bliss, Texas? For the Bottle Palm, use a soil based potting medium with some added manure, peat, and dolomite.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 10:12 AM	Yikes my head is spinning trying to catch up...this is what I get for going straight to bed last night....I'd do better talking to the creepy corn stalk grin Dave i thought you were crazy saying that yam was trying to get up & walk off till you showed the picture, then I thought 'eek! run for your life!' That's almost as creepy as my Malakai corn. Hey maybe I can get that corn to grow till Halloween & then use it as a prop. Trina I wish we could do a field trip to your porch & see all those plants....wow! And I hope your friend is ok.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 01:42 PM	Trina, Jim, not much can be done to change a youngun's mind when they get set on something, but maybe we can wrap them in a blanket of Gypsy care and concern to help keep them safe...and add their names to the prayer list, also. Lynnie, now I am worried, the corn is slowly clouding your mind....you want to keep it.....BIGGRIN...just teasing. Dave I worried that the blood sugar was taking a nose dive, but the picture set that straight....maybe your yam is trying to get to Lynnie's cornstalk.....beware, the alien veggies are trying to band together and neither of them can play a kazoo.lol Ican, Chester Cheese Dog and Benny Christopher Beagle won't have anything to do with toys....they want human squeaky toys....they grab a body part and I squeak...grin, but Sophie Spoon Beagle latched on to a small white vinyl squeaky ball when she was a puppy and has had to have one ever since...she keeps it for 2 or 3 months, running around with it in her mouth, squeaking through her nose, and then, one day with no warning, rips out the squeaker and shreds the ball.....the big tragedy is that we can no longer find this type of ball and she is in squeaky withdrawal. We have tried other squeak-toys, but she just kills them on the first day and walks away. She is taking her grief out at the food dish...grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 04:20 PM	Ican, on the grape ivy, I dunno I just water it! LOL I think I have transplanted it 3 times due to size, but other then the new dirt when it gets transplasted, I just water it.....And it gets one big container of water once a week... It seems to love it. Hmmmmmm, maybe it likes our water. Ican, I have a pin that says......"All my children have paws".
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 04:21 PM	Dave, I am going to send you 2 sites that my son suggests for your computer.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 04:23 PM	Lynn, keep the corn, it actually may not be corn. Have you seen any ears form on it? BF reminded me that we had something like that come up in his garden too, and we left them grow, but it was not corn. The top came out different then corn does.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 04:26 PM	Welcome, trina and nice to meet you.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 05:40 PM	thanks Kassy. god to be here
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 05:45 PM	Lynn, I said to keep that corn, because you may actually have Sorghum. That's what we had sprouting up in the garden one year. We thought corn too, that the chipmunks planted, until the seeds started bushing out on top of it. Our chickens love us...........They get all kinds of seeds!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 05:48 PM	The birds would love the sorghum also, but sorghum isn't nearly as spooky as the corn....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 06:11 PM	I know, but we don't want to scare Lynn too much.......wait until she sees the pictures of the corn field I can get
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 06:16 PM	if it looks like corn it's spooky! although I never heard of a movie called Children of the Sorghum....maybe we could make one, featuring Kassy's legless chicken.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 06:20 PM	LOL...ROTFL....GRIN. Obviously i like that idea....the sorghum field keeper could be called Molasses and could use Kassy's chicken as a messenger.....OOOEEEEOOOO....weird spooky music...
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 06:23 PM	if he's legless he won't make a very good messenger....he'll need wheels.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 06:26 PM	and Molasses could amass biofuels
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 06:26 PM	But that is the scary part...a legless messenger that gets there...but we could surely come up with a snazzy set of fire spewing wheels...grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 06:27 PM	To power the fire spewing messenger wheels....lol
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 06:29 PM	Kassy can your chicken ride a unicycle?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 06:37 PM	Ok Lynn, watch for this to happen to it, then you will know that it is sorghum Would love to stick around, but my bed is calling me. Nite View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 29, 2009 06:38 PM	LOL, I'll ask him the next time I see him................He may fly to the moon if he isn't nice!
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 06:46 PM	Eeek! I think I saw Malakai! a flying legless chicken, it could work....
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 07:00 PM	I don't know where he will be going for advanced training. He still has five more weeks at Paris Island. (Dave) You girls are getting a little wierd. I guess I'm going to have to practice up on "The Exorcism Rites." Glad to have fresh blood, Trina. I can see right off that you fit with bunch of misfits. Moon, I was reading a thread on the tomatoe forum and I was so proud of the information you were giving. I was thinking, by golly, when you want to know something the gang from the basil threads have the answer. I was just fixing to post and let you know how proud I was of you. Took a second look and it was "Moonglow," not Moon howl.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 07:13 PM	Hey Jim...when it comes to eating tomatoes, I AM a champion...grin. It is nice to know though that you felt that way. grin I think it is more a matter of obsessive escapism rather than possession Jim...where else could we be so silly and not get in trouble... Flying legless chicken alert....is the chicken's name Alice? To the moon, Alice, to the moon. grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 07:15 PM	lol maybe that's Moon after her margarita grin Jim your grandson & Trina your son just have to stay safe, I send up prayers for those kids over there all the time, I've sent many many care packages to soldiers. My own family has a long tradition of service to our country and I know these soldiers are just some of the best people you could ever meet, their sense of duty is humbling. Jim you can try, I fear it's too late for us...
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 07:17 PM	I'm not sure if sorghum is a big crop here in the East.....
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 29, 2009 07:23 PM	O.k. Kassy you need to post the pic of your legless chicken again. He's our new hero. Maybe you could put a cape on him first.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 07:25 PM	It would be Moonhowloutloudandlong rather than moonglow...grin We are the same, Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines and Army Nurses Corp...every conflict since the Civil War...when will we ever learn? My uncle once said he didn't think anyone under the age of 40 should be in the service....no sense in killing off our children....he may have had something there.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 07:27 PM	Who was that masked chicken and how does he walk?...Love it Ican. Night Kassy, sweet sleep...have a happy night at work in spite of management.
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 29, 2009 08:38 PM	Excuse me Jim, Paris Island is Marines, Ft. Bliss is Army. I hope all these young folks come home soon and in good health. I wish the people of the world could get over their differences. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 09:09 PM	well so far I have managed to mess up the computer and the TV....good thing my husband will be home in a few minutes!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 09:11 PM	Now if you can manage the stove, it will be out to eat tonight....grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 29, 2009 10:07 PM	they have leftover meatloaf, no chance of that!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 10:32 PM	Guess it is peanut butter for you...grin
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:04 PM	I officially belong to the Basil Cult. View Larger
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:07 PM	Delving in herbs. A new experience. View Larger
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:12 PM	I didn't receive any of Obama's bail out funds so I guess I'll raise what I eat. Cabbage, Broccoli, Califlower. Not much there yet but give it time. View Larger
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:14 PM	A little squash for variety. View Larger
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:17 PM	Add a tomato and any meal is elegant. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 29, 2009 11:23 PM	Lovely garden Jim. Looks like good eats for the fall and winter.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 29, 2009 11:25 PM	For really hard times, Collards. Red-Neck soul food. Just need a little more growth and a good frost to make them sweet. View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 29, 2009 11:49 PM	Hi everyone and welcome Trinawitch. Icanfindroom, I like your palm. Dave so good to hear you got your P.C. cleaned of those virus's. Kassy, I would be interested in hearing what your son has to say as far as "free anti-virus" protection. I ran AVG on my work computer for almost a year and was a very happy with it but, I am alway's "ear's" when it come's to other's that have first hand experience using other program's and yes my system is Window's XP Professional. Jim, nice veggie garden's you have going on there. Dave, loved the Jimi Hendrix quote....very true statement and hoping all that have son's/daughter's fighting for our country make's it safely/healthy back to their home's. I have a good friend who's son is in the Marine's. When he re-enlisted for four year's she was devastated as to the thought's of where he may be stationed next. She called to let me know she was feeling alot better after hearing that he will be stationed in Hawaii for two year's.....she even had a tone of excitment in her voice......ha, wonder why!
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 30, 2009 12:11 AM	I just noticed this and had to share. Kassy's Lilium longiflorum got bloom of the day on August 21st. Congrat's Kassy!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 12:13 AM	Isn't that cool. Those were her Mom's lilies, and it was special for them to be chosen. She had a poppy chosen the week before.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 30, 2009 12:34 AM	I agree Jean, very special!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 01:59 AM	Hows'it Folks. I arrived at an understanding with the Yam. I can't get the Yam to play the kazoo. But if we all agree to let 'em play the blues harp, the Yam will stick around! View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 02:07 AM	Tell Yam Harpo we would love to have him hang around with his harp.....grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 02:16 AM	Hey Jim, good to see folks raising food! That is independance! Here's what's happenin' in Bean Town! View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 30, 2009 02:20 AM	I agree with Jean as well Dave. Your Dioscorea , is a keeper! I like them!!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 02:25 AM	LOL Dave :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 02:46 AM	Good evening everybody!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 02:48 AM	Hi Trina. Gotta find you a rock name so you can join the marquee....grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 02:55 AM	Rock name? as in mineral or band?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 03:11 AM	sorta both....Ican is Icanrock. Lynnie is RockSteady cuz she is steadily collecting rocks for her landscape. Jim is Rock of Ages cuz he's our elder and retired (semi) minister. Rachel is Loverrock cuz she's from Virginia and Va is for lovers, grin. Kassy is our Rockat cuz of her kitties, babeegirl is Pebbles (baby rocks), Dave is our very own Chocolate Plant Lavarock Rebel (long story grin). and me.....Moonrock cuz I'm kinda orbiting out there. grin
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:17 AM	I dunno moon, you've pretty much come up with everyones names so far right? What about witchrock or t-rock? Really I think your the name gal. :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:18 AM	hhhhmmm wel I am only 35 but permantly retired (Not by choice), My name is Katrina yes just like the hurricane so please don't hold that against me, though my kids wil tell you I am meaner and nastier than any hurricane. I might weigh in at 100 lbs. on a fat day. And after 2 divorces and other issues I am finally comfortable enough to wear what I want when I want. And I have 5 teenagers....what Kinda rock is that?
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:29 AM	K now I have Rock me like a Hurricane stuck in my head.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:30 AM	K now I have Rock me like a Hurricane stuck in my head...ooops, Rock YOU like a hurricane.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:31 AM	LOL. so did I when I wrote that!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 03:34 AM	Minerals? This is Flourite. View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:36 AM	Minerals my favs are Amethyst (birth stone) lapis lazuli a and kyanite (it calms me)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 03:36 AM	Well. my inclination would be to say...Rocksolid, but you know that already, so I think Gardenrock-T
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:39 AM	Speaking of gardens...I planted some lilacs in the back and hid a bench in them so I can sneak away from the kids!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:41 AM	Do you have a favorite mineral? How about freerock? Divorced twice, free to wear what you want when you want.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:42 AM	LOL, took too long to post, I see YEEEESSSS you DO have a favorite mineral! :)
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:44 AM	What about niterock for kyanite? Lame? I love minerals :) Carnelian is one of my favorites, and sapphire (birthstone).
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 30, 2009 03:45 AM	100 #'s, likes bikini's, How about Hot Rock.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:45 AM	I have large pieces of amethyst all over the house...pyramids, rough pieces, sliced geodes as doorstops...tumbled chips...I just can't keep the kids off my table....they have to finger everything
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:49 AM	Hot rock! It would work for the hurricane temper your kids say you have as well :)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 03:52 AM	Crystalrock
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:52 AM	Well I am a natural redhead so HotRock works!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:55 AM	Crystalrock...I like that too....I have a child needs to be taught a lesson...where's my wand...I'll turn him into a toad!!!!....lol
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:56 AM	We have a winner! Good job Jim!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 03:56 AM	Your choice....gotta feel okay with it.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 03:57 AM	Oops, now you have to decide. I like CrystalRock too. :) Hmmmmmm.....
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:00 AM	Crystalrock works for me!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:03 AM	Great! I was thinking since your a redhead Fire&Rock would have worked too. CrystalRock is good. Told ya moon was the name gal :)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:03 AM	Welcome to the band o gypsies, Crystal rock....course no one may ever wind up calling you that, but it is yours and goes on the great performance marquee....grin
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:06 AM	Moon you are our band manager :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:08 AM	LOL!!!! whats sad is I believe Ican's average summer temp this year was higher than mine! I want my summer...I didn't get to use our pool at all!!!!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:09 AM	Oh cool....you put the fate of the gypsy band in the hands of the one named after a satellite....must be cuz I'm really out there man...uhhhmmm I mean really far out man....grin
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:14 AM	Well bein far out there sorta fits with the rock band / gypsy theme ya think? Moonrock also works for moonstone and moonstone is very very cool :) Trina ~ AK had a fabulous summer this year! Last summer I wasn't up here yet, but I was told it only hit 70 twice. What's really funny though is I'm just now learning what Alaskan's call "pouring rain" and it's what Washingtonians (where I grew up) call a light drizzle. They're all "Man it's really coming down out there!" I'm looking outside going "What???"
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:20 AM	Moonstone is my birthday stone...and Pearl, the moonlit orb, my birth stone...no way to get a "round" it....I am truly luney. grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:24 AM	Lol! I went and visited a friend in Texas (she's originally from Michigan) and it "snowed" they closed the streets and we were out driving around and a state cop pulled us over freaking out that we were driving in the snow...we both innocently asked him what snow! Then informed him where we were from this isn't nothing!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:25 AM	LOL Moon! I'm a red-headed pisces with an attitude!!! Typical of my sign!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:27 AM	We had about 3 inches of snow this year ....first time in 8 years. lasted about 24 hours....everything was closed including the post office.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:29 AM	My oldest son is a redheaded Pisces .....march 7th. He turned 36 this year.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:30 AM	LOL! 3" :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:32 AM	February 25th for me...my oldest step sons is the 5th, my mom's the 12th, and the middle child's (my shadow) is march 18, and my step dads is march 6th...whole lotta pisces and aquarius going on in this house!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:34 AM	Hey, it was quality, not quantity....we got the whole show in less than 36 hours. Snow sleet wind gray skies cold schools closed snowmen and sun on white pristine snow....efficient I'd say...grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 04:35 AM	Here is Amethyst and Kyanite View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:38 AM	my daughter feb2, mom feb 5 brother feb 16 son in law feb23 wedding feb28 son mar 7 stepgrand son mar 3
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:41 AM	Nice healthy chunks of crystal there Dave.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:42 AM	Metrosideros I am very envious....kids my kyanite somewhere, no one fesses up, or gives it back....Why can't I claim "no one" and "not me" on my taxes? they cost me money all the time!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 04:43 AM	Ain't it the truth? grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:02 AM	Ok dumb question has anyone ever heard of something called Bears Breetches? I got some from springhill nurseries but it still hasn't bloomed...wondered if its a second year bloomer
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:08 AM	Bears Breetches are very cool. I used to want one but never actually picked one up. Here's the DG link http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/177/ Both my mom and dad are Pisces. My brother & I are both Libra's, and my sister is a Gemini. When my mom was pregnant with her they thought she was twins :) My mom always used to say to never have two kids in the same zodiac sign (my bro & I) not sure why that was.... ;) My son's a Leo, broke the mold. This message was edited Aug 30, 2009 6:10 AM
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 05:11 AM	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acanthus_(plant) here's some general info
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 05:13 AM	Time to go before super messenger crows....have a good night all sweet sleep....talk tomorrow. moon
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:15 AM	I got new plants today! I'm so bad as if the free ones weren't enough! all succulents today though. been doing the happy dance about them...only paid 80 cents each for them. and a good size! But I can't wait to see the Bears Breetches bloom!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:17 AM	Wow 80 cents! Good find! There's no helping it. Especially if a plant's on sale. No will power in the plant world.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:23 AM	I never have will power when it comes to plants...my checkbook however often tells me NO!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:27 AM	Here's one of the seven I got! Definately not bad for 80 cents! View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:30 AM	Understand that one! I had a good friend I would go nursery hopping with and I used to bring my cc because we were always bad. Luckily we didn't make those trips too often. I'm trying to do the seed thing now but I need a better light set up for next year. Still I can't stop myself from cruising the nurseries, or the plant section at any store. I try to exercise control at the clearance section, 80 cents would have broken me though.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:31 AM	Whaaaaa???? THAT was 80 cents????? ooooOOOOooooo!!!!!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:36 AM	well it was marked down to a buck but my stepdad works at lowes and picked them up for me with his discount making them 80 cents...yeah for me...more to add to my jungle!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:40 AM	I'm green with envy :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:53 AM	But this ones my fav of the 8 (not 7 I was wrong) I had to put the blue cup under one side to keep it from falling over! View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 06:06 AM	Ican I could send you some of the starts next spring when it warms up so they don't die in shipping if you want. By next spring I will have built my plant collection up enough to start sharing...well other than the ones siting outside that were given to me....most of my plants though I think everyone already has...I want to start getting some more exotic kinds...but again the checkbook says No right now
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 06:13 AM	Well good night everyone...hope to see you all tomorrow...it was great chatting with you! and remember together we can find a cure!!!!! View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 11:17 AM	Yikes this is what I get for falling asleep early! Well I get up at 5, 5:30 so I guess 10 or 11 isn't that early..... Trina..Redrock? I think you can be our lead singer. . I like Hotrock too. Sounds like you & I are the same size, I'm an Aquarius also. My husbands friends used to call me the Blond Tornado...but I've mellowed grin Dave I nearly spit my coffee on the monitor when I looked at your plant wearing glasses & playing a harmonica...why are Jim's vegetables behaving and ours are getting wild??? It's supposed to stop raining today, I'll have to check on my creepy corn stalk by the light of day. Kassy it was I who called your chicken legless, I stand corrected he is footless..I think we can make a good name for him Foghorn Footless....(I like Foghorn Legless better, are you sure you don't want those drumsticks?)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 03:24 PM	Alright how soon and how sick should I expect my puppy to get, she ate the runner off my Black Magic Elephant Ear
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:36 PM	It's the oxalates crystals that you'll have to watch out for. Found this... "Yes elephant ears are poisonous to your dog. It has oxalates which bind with calcium in the blood to form calcium oxalate crystals. After the dog has ate the ear again thoroughly rinse the mouth out with water. You may give your dog dairy products such as milk to provide a source of calcium. This is to prevent hypocalcaemia. Contact your vet immediately it can be fatal." Also this website. If it doesn't pull up elephant ears when you open it just search. http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/poison-control/plants/elephant... Hopefully she didn't eat enough to effect her.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 04:40 PM	I kinda liked the legless visual but it would be a bit interesting wouldn't it ;) Trina ~ I'm pretty sure if you take pictures in spring you'll be flocked by plant lovers. Let me know when you're getting ready for that. By then I'm sure you'll have formed some attachments :) :) :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:45 PM	this purple/black one is what she ate...well chewed off because I cought her...thought she was going after the fiber optic grass again! View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 04:49 PM	and either I can't spell philadendron or its called something else because I can't find out anything about them in the plant files
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:05 PM	Yours looks like Black Magic Colocasia. Taro family. Dave's probably an expert on Taro. Here's the DG link. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31781/ (oops, put the wrong link in) This message was edited Aug 30, 2009 6:07 PM
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:09 PM	ooh ooh I feel smart I already knew that one...just didn't know how it would affect my obnoxious chuahua!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:26 PM	I would say as long as she didn't chow down it should be o.k. but better safe than sorry. Sometimes vets aren't as helpful as a panicked parent would like though. My dog was throwing up blood one morning (lots of blood) and the vet wanted to watch him overnight. I can watch him overnight, I want to know why he's throwing up blood! Eeee! I mean if he was poisoned by something overnight could have been a very bad thing. Yes I'm over protective can ya tell? Never did figure that one out, just put him on a bland food diet to help his tummy heal. I would try the bland food diet with your puppy "just in case" while her body processes those crystals. Did you check out the aspca link? It shows symptoms to watch for.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:28 PM	Actually this website may be a bit more helpful, more info including first aid. :) http://www.pawsdogdaycare.com/Start-Up-Services/Plants-Poiso...
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:36 PM	awesome thanks! can you help me identify an a plant? I think its an asparagus fern I just don't know what type View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 05:50 PM	Possibly this guy? The Sprenger asparugus fern? Does it have mean little thorny things? I have a more innocent asparagus fern. Those tend to tick me off :) however odds are good your pets won't be chewing on them. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1850/
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 05:52 PM	Colocasia esculenta var. antiquorum. Before the horticulture industry began calling it "Black Magic Taro", it was known here as Black Japanese Dasheen. It is edible when cooked; the toxin in it is calcium oxalate. It will cause the dogs mouth to burn / itch; if much was ingested it will get an upset stomach. Repeatedly eating uncooked Taro will harm one's kidney's. Put your poisonous plants up out of your dog's reach, or teach the critter to read and show him a poisonous plant book. View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 05:52 PM	Asparagus sprengeri http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Asparagus_sp.htm dog stuff http://books.google.com/books?id=49uSlP0gLz4C&pg=PA61&lpg=PA... http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/PoisPlant/Tox-C...
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:53 PM	It has these little green berry loking things on it...are they seed pods?
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 05:59 PM	I'm trying to look everything up and make a book for my kids so that they know what each one is and how to take care of them...so here's another one for the geussing game. its in the grey pot View Larger
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) August 30, 2009 06:03 PM	Trina when my dog ate fly bait poison the vet had me give her peroxide. It will make them throw up. You have to do it fairly soon after they eat it though.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 06:05 PM	I've planted seeds from an asparagus fern before. Took them forever to come up but here is my baby. Plume asparagus (asparagus setaceus) I like how it looks like a miniature tree. The original fern was vining up and about. Very cool. I like the Sprengeri's, just not the way they feel, at least when they get big. My fight was with a large old one. Little bugger won. :) View Larger
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 30, 2009 06:08 PM	Hmmmm, could it be a Dracaena. There's a variety with a chickies name (informative aren't I) that looks similar. Come on experts! Another nice looking plant btw :) Dracaena Anita is what I was thinking of. Maybe the leaves are too short though. This message was edited Aug 30, 2009 7:14 PM
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 06:36 PM	Yes, Dracaena. Not sure which one though. Maybe Dracaena angustifolia.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 06:41 PM	I don't know it has woody "trunks" leaves come off like on a palm tree I can turn it around for a better picture if needed & another question aren't the Datura's all the same when it comes to growing them or do I really have to look the Double Yellow, Double Purple, and Double white seperately?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:00 PM	http://www.clisby.eclipse.co.uk/ this should help with care and propagation questions on daturas. Many dracaenas have woody trunks, Trina.http://www.dracaena.com/
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 07:02 PM	LOL, Teach them to read and give them a poisonous plant book...........I liked that one Dave. ;-) Ican, trish, I think we need to send snow to Jean ;-) I loved the plant with the glasses too Dave, and I tried to comment on it, but I think this site is out to get me! It wouldn't put it in!!! Actually my reaction to it was.......ROTFL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 07:02 PM	Thanks moon...Like I said I can grow anything I just don't know there names...well I gave them names...not always appropriate names I call the asparagus fern "Spike" for obvious reasons!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:05 PM	Cool Kassy, send it on, only please send it in nice neat little containers and I will fill it with baked Alaska and send it back....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 07:06 PM	Oh Dave and Jean, I'm in heaven, I'm in heaven.................... BF texted me this morning as I didn't get to talk to him on messenger last night, and said there are 15 Puff Balls in the yard now!!! Yippieeeeeee
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 07:07 PM	I guess I have to keep him now............LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:07 PM	I have managed to grow the stuff around here for years before I decided we should be formally introduced....sort of a plant empath...grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:08 PM	Yea Kassy....it is sauted puffball for dinner....with pictures. Yummy
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 07:10 PM	ok here's another one for this name challenged gardener! View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 07:15 PM	I texted him back and told him "PROTECT THEM FROM THE CHICKENS"!!! Think he might have gotten the message?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:20 PM	Tradescantia...purple wandering jew http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1160/ Boy, footless won't be a super messenger if he eats your puffballs....grin he might need those fiery wheels....grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 07:21 PM	Tradescantia pallida 'Purpurea'. 15 Puffballs! Wow! Now you just need to get your BF to eat them!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 07:27 PM	Thank you both! OK whats a puffball?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 30, 2009 07:35 PM	Giant Puffball Mushroom, Calvatia gigantea. One of the best eating mushrooms on the planet!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 07:36 PM	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvatia_gigantea
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 07:53 PM	I prefer the morrels....sliced and deep fried with a very light breading....yummy...now you all made me hungry
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 08:06 PM	LOL Dave, that will never happen! All the more for me Or do I need a new BF? Nahhhhh
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 08:20 PM	A Good Recipe The giant puffball lends itself to being cut into steaks, dipped in beaten egg covered in breadcrumbs and fried, especially in the pan juices after frying bacon. Try also grilling one side of a thick slice, then turning it over and grilling the other, adding cheese slices and seasoning. GIANT'S OMELETTE 225g Giant Puff Ball - thinly sliced 80ml (4 tbsp) butter 60ml chopped fresh chives 60ml chopped fresh parsley 60ml heavy cream 6 eggs - lightly beaten Salt and Black Pepper Sauté the mushrooms in half the butter, until the liquid has almost evaporated. Add the herbs and set aside. Melt the remaining butter in an omelette pan on a moderate heat. Blend the cream into the eggs and add salt and pepper, then pour into pan. When the egg mixture starts to set lift the edges, and tilt the pan so the remaining runny mixture can flow to the heat. When the mixture just stops flowing add the sautéed mushrooms to the omelette. When the omelette starts to turn golden brown at the bottom, fold in half and slide onto a plate. Oh man, now I'm getting hungry!!!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 08:46 PM	Kassy your just plain mean doing that! now my tummy's rumbling!...LOL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 08:46 PM	OH man, Oh man, I have to tell you this one.............ROTFL My son usually does not cut the lawn, my DIL does because she likes to do it. She is gone now, so he is cutting it today. He came in and said "That sure doesn't feel like a selfpropelled lawn mower. Boy, am I getting a work out, especially going up hill!" The next time he went out he found out there was another small handle on it that makes it selfpropelled............ROTFL!!!! I'm dying laughing here!!!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 08:48 PM	Sorry trina, now I'll show you how big they get............LOL View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 08:54 PM	Wish I had known those were edible..I'd tell you what happened but you'd just cry...and thats funny about the lawnmower!!!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 09:01 PM	Trina, that big one that I have my foot by I didn't get to soon enough....... And I was never willing to try them, even though my BF had a friend that would come over to get them for eating. After Dave and Jean ID'ed it for me, I ran out to get it. But it was too old by then :( We have never had 15 in his yard! Usually 2 at the most each year. BF and his daughter use to kick them around like scoccer balls..........Bet he won't do that any more
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 09:05 PM	Not if he doesn't want to join Footless....grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 09:10 PM	My kids do to..yards been so soggy we moved a truck topper and there were tons of them under there...now a question....what is this plant? the tag said "peristrophe" "Wavy Yellow", but I can't find anything under plant files that looks like it View Larger
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 09:29 PM	http://www.provenwinners.com/plants/detail.cfm?photoID=6845&... peristrophe annual hyssopifolia
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 09:40 PM	Thanks Moon!!! Sorry to be a pain guys
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 30, 2009 09:45 PM	No problem Trina. have google; will search....grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 10:03 PM	well this witch is still in the dark ages..LOL ...I did upgrade from a broom to a bike though!!! My step-son Austin rebuilt me a 1950's Schwinn with a few upgrades...we call it broomhilda...and a 3 wheeled one we call toadie
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 30, 2009 10:09 PM	Oh, you bet Jean. Kicking those mushrooms around now will be grounds for sending him to the chicken coop ;-) We skip dog house, we just go to chicken coop!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 10:32 PM	hhm bad man in the chicken coop with an angry footless chicken? We could sell tickets!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 10:40 PM	ok here's another one the tag says Dorotheanthus Mezoo Mesbicla "Trailing Red" View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 30, 2009 10:53 PM	Well darn.....I now have mixed feelings about this website....I liked growing things and not knowing what they were...I never realized I had so many poisonous ones!!!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 12:07 AM	I don't know all of the names of my plants either. I see, I like, I buy. End of story. Sometimes I try to figure the rest out. Most of them I at least know the basic type, just not the exact variety. There's no shortage of poisonous plants. If you tried to grow just the safe ones you wouldn't have nearly as much fun. Keep putting plant pics on, love plant pics! Kassy, that's the biggest mushroom I've ever seen. It's a feast! Also, I wanna buy tickets :)
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 12:08 AM	Oh, forgot, baked alaska....mmmmmmm..... Mushroom omelet....mmmmmm.....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 12:12 AM	dorotheanthus mezoo trailing red Livingstone Daisy http://www.gardencrossings.com/plant/Dorotheanthus__Mezoo Tr...
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 12:14 AM	No barking, just a whole lot of crowing.....grin
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 12:15 AM	Oh that's a nice one :)
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 12:16 AM	Nice plant I mean. Crowing and man yelling? Mushrooms flying?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 01:19 AM	15 Puff balls!!! yipppieeeeeeeeeee
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 01:35 AM	Hello everyone. Trina, your as bad with collecting plant's as I am;-) Jean, I have never heard of "dorotheanthus mezoo trailing red Livingstone Daisy" I thought it was Aptenia cordifolia 'Variegata'. Jim, how is it going with your veggie's and herb's that you recently planted? Lynnie, hope you and your corn stalk are coming to term's with one another.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 01:38 AM	Hi Rachel, how was your day?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:38 AM	I squirted it with dish soap like Jim said, we'll see what happens. It smells good :)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 01:39 AM	it's not corn I'm willing to bet
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:42 AM	there were a LOT of children around it today, too, but I didn't see Malakai.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 01:49 AM	LOL
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 01:52 AM	Lynnie, you just made me burst out laughing for the first time today;-) I love your sense of humor!!!! Kassy, doing well and hope you are too but you just have to post a pic of all those big Puff ball's of mushroom's ! That has to be a site to see.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 01:57 AM	There at my BF's.........didn't you see the one I did post before?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 02:01 AM	I'll post it again View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 02:02 AM	I sure did Kassy and loved it. We have had a tremendous amount of different size/shape/color's of mushroom's pop up everywhere here on the mountain land in the past month or so. I have never viewed such before.......maybe due to all the rain we have received.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 02:06 AM	Well we usually get 2 on his land in a year. Already had one and now have 15. And we had a very try summer
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 02:10 AM	Sorghum tends to go where birds fly, more than Corn. Just because it's a Banana, doesn't mean it turns yellow. This is a Red Spanish Banana; it ripens up to a yellowish-orange color, the flesh is salmon colored. View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:12 AM	Thanks Rachel....it seemed the kids out in my yard were multiplying today....every time I looked out there was another 1 or 2 or 3....
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 02:13 AM	Interesting Kassy, maybe it was just a good year "all around" for Mushroom's. Luna Moth View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:15 AM	kassy I was just about to ask you if you had a wet summer.... Dave do those taste like the regular bananas from the grocery store? I don't think I've ever seen bananas with salmon colored flesh.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:17 AM	Rachel I had one of those in my front yard once...it was huge, so cool, but it was on it's last legs (like Kassy's chicken haha).
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 02:19 AM	Lynn, I think maybe Dave is busy downloading something ...............I'll let you know when I try them ;-)
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) August 31, 2009 02:20 AM	Lynnie I finished. Forgot how big that roon was.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 02:39 AM	Pretty Luna Moth. I've never seen one in person. Hmmmm Lynnie, has the corn started moving closer to your house yet?
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 02:48 AM	jjsgramma, I scanned the pic's and writting over on the slug thread a while back and I just have to say that your flooring was absolutely gorgeous! Icanfindroom, I love the congo Philodendron's! I do not have the congo red though due to I have not seen it available in my area of the world yet. The Luna's do not live long but they are a stunning moth to see in person.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 02:49 AM	ROTFL Ican
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 03:03 AM	Philodendrons are great aren't they? SO many different types available. I want a Monstera but that's one I CAN'T find room for yet (please notice the "yet") I eyeball them every time I'm at Home Depot. I used to have one at my old house that took up a corner or our living room. My ex was afraid of it. :)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 03:05 AM	I noticed that "yet", that why you have the name you have!
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 03:06 AM	;)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 03:07 AM
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 31, 2009 03:11 AM	Trina, those green berries on the asparagus fern will turn red and then fall off. They are the seed and will come up. We have never planted them but have a lot of volunteers around our carport. Down here we never take them in. Sometimes throw a sheet over them if the weather is going to get in the twenties. If the cold kills them back they come back the next spring. I posted pictures somewhere of the veggies I planted. Just need time to get their roots down and established.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 03:42 AM	Hi Jim, I noticed you had some tomatoe plant's planted in a hay bale. Is that something new or am I just not up to par? Rachel
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 03:45 AM	The Red Spanish have a different flavor, just as the many cultivars of Bananas. Here is a Hawaiian A'e A'e Banana. It is somewhat starchy when ripe, but sweetens up when cooked (with a little butter and cinnamon). Makes a great breakfast! View Larger
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 03:49 AM	That A'e A'e Banana, sell's for quite a bit of dollar's over here.!
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 31, 2009 03:54 AM	Tomatoes in hay are new to me. Saw a friend raise some like that this summer. They did real well. Thought I'd give it a try this winter. Fresh vine ripe tomatoes for Christmas is my goal.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 04:01 AM	Jim, wishing you the best with this new program of growing healthy tomatoe's. In my world the newest fetish was growing them from a type of hanging basket;-) Maybe these "new" method's will aid in keeping out the blight?
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 31, 2009 04:08 AM	I grew them like that one time before it got to be a fetish. Lots of folks doing it this year. Don't need all that fancy stuff they are selling on T.V. Just an empty bucket with a hole in the bottom. The only problem I had was we had a heck of a wind storm and they were hanging to close to the building and beat them to pieces. Win some lose some.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 04:13 AM	Wow you can grow tomatoes for Christmas? Man! I've never been able to grow one past fall. As in Sept. MAYBE the beginning of Oct. I was wondering about planting veggies this late but I forget your in LA. I was planning on digging up the tomato plant in my yard to see if it will stay alive inside. It has had blooms for two months now but not one tomato has started.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA August 31, 2009 04:18 AM	I hear you Jim. Been blessed with lot's of tomatoe's grown in the ground here regardless of the blight.
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 31, 2009 04:23 AM	I raise only blight resistent tomatoes in the summer. These aren't blight resistent. Hope they make it. The lady that was starting my plants had eye surgery and went to fertilize her plants. Couldn't see to well and mixed the fertilize wrong and killed all her plants. So, had to go elsewhere.
icanfindroom Anchorage, AK August 31, 2009 04:31 AM	O.K. Dave I saw another Lambic today. Blackcurrant. I'm still working on the 12oz black cherry LOL! So which have you tried? Lets see there was raspberry, apple, peach, black cherry of course, and now blackcurrant.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 06:52 AM	Ican, my BF sometimes digges up a pepper plant and brings it in the house. Then he sets it back outsider in the spring. I have seen the hay bail growing somewhere, either on TV or on a video on the internet. Problem is, it would take a lot of hay bails to fill our garden! Yikes, 47 degrees here tonight!!! And could go down to 35 :( Ican, blackcurrant is interesting. Currents are usually a tarter berry, unless the black ones aren't.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 07:30 AM	seems I miss alot when my body gives up before my brain! Its 2:30 am here now...can't sleep now...thanks for all the advice everyone...as for tomatoes in alaska in december...I use a 5 gallon bucket and some stakes inside the house...I start the indoor ones about 4 weeks before the ones outside are completely gone from the weather that way I have a continuous supply of fresh tomatoes (hey 7 people 1 house saves on the grocery bill!) I also grow basil and other herbs, corn (that strangely holds the kids fascinated), peppers (sweet & hot), and strawberries in the house, on a fixed income you gotta do what you gotta do to keep them fed good stuff! There are 13 rooms in this house and everyone is filled to the brim with plants of all kinds, and kids who have now started to get interested in plants....now if I can only get the 13 yr old to understand that aloes don't need watered everyday, and the 12 yr old to understand impatiens need watered more than once in 2 weeks...LOL
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 11:44 AM	Children seem to like corn ;) I'm keeping an eye on my creepy cornstalk, if it grows any friends that will be the end of it! I'll check on the aphids and whiteflies and ants (oh my!) after the dish detergent. If it's sorghum I'll be somewhat disappointed...truly won't know what to do with it......biofuel? What DO you do with sorghum?? What do you do with all that hay after the plants are done? Spread it around the garden? JJ that was some quick work on that room! I'm impressed! I can't wait to start my bedroom! You finished it before Ican finished her beer! lol
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 12:10 PM	Good morning everyone. Good to see the world was in such capable hands.....mushrooms, tomatoes and green growing plants...bananas and corn/sorghum and a little chicken dance....who could ask for anything more?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 12:18 PM	well we are children of the corn after all hahaha
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 12:24 PM	Either that or Nature's corny children....grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 12:35 PM	that's more like it lol
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 12:51 PM	It should not be a chore to laugh....and being corny is a gift....guess that is why they call it Flights of fancy cuz it is uplifting.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:04 PM	good morning all...my brain is on plant overload!
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:06 PM	morning Hotrock :) just watering all those plants would overload me! lol
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 01:14 PM	Morning Trina, I agree with RockSteady Lynnie....grin, reminds me of the Boomtown Rats..."the little black box inside her head switched to overload.......I don't like Mondays"
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:26 PM	tell me why....song gives me the chills.....
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:28 PM	LOL!!! Nah it wasn't the plants that did me in between the puppy, and my husbands utter refusal to take her out in the middle of the night, and this medication, I get tired easily
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:35 PM	is the puppy crated at night? moon i think we can be Goofballs of the Sorghum or the Slapstick Sorghum Gypsies...
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 01:37 PM	Shame on him...if he's awake take the pup out...just like a baby, somebody has to do the 2AM diaper change and why does it always have to be Mom? Oh yeah, I remember, Mom has the food supply....grin Sorry you are not feeling up to snuff today....good thoughts and a buzz headed your way, Trina I agree Lynnie, that song was a strange choice for a top of the charts hit....blackthoughts seem to sell well....back to bubblegum music.....Yummy yummy yummy.....maybe not...grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 01:42 PM	maybe the Sorghum Puffball Gypsies.....or the Molasses Puffball band....oh, speaking of bands, one of my favorite garage band names is 'Hornets attack Victor Mature', another is "Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark' and 'Mental as Anything'
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:44 PM	Cheer up, sleepy jean. Oh, what can it mean. To a daydream believer And a homecoming queen how's this one? you must have heard this a LOT
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:46 PM	Puffballs makes us sound fat grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 01:51 PM	At least DHJim doesn't use my shaving razor...hot or cold...grin Just be glad Kassy doesn't have a yard full of Stinkhorns.....we could create a whole persona....Stickhorn Molasses, scourge of the west..... And hey, you are doing the gym for JJs....just expand your workout for the band...LOL
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 01:59 PM	You're lucky there! I finally got new ones, hid one ssshh! As for the workouts, I'm hungry all the time NOW! if I had to work out for all I'd have to quit work so I could eat enough lol Stinkhorn might be the most appropriate name for the band HAHAHAHAHA
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 02:05 PM	Hey, we haven't even got our kazoos warmed up good.....at least we have a better repertoire than the Starland Vocal band.....sky rockets take flight....afternoon delight...who does fireworks in the daytime for Pete's sake....grin We'll just make regular deposits of peanut butter no bake cookies in your account...grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:23 PM	Moon I don't think that song is to be interpreted literally ;) I'm going to need some of that Lambic if I'm gonna start playing a kazoo grin and I CAN be bribed with cookies.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:25 PM	no the puppy isn't crated at night anymore! ok this plant came with the tag "Huechera Burgundy" but it looks like a coleus to me what do yall think? View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:27 PM	COOKIES?!?! I want some cookies...especially if they're peanut butter
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:33 PM	I confuse coleus with huechera a lot but it is probably a huechera...there are lots of them, they're on my someday list.... Trina have you had those no bake cookies with oatmeal, peanut butter & chocolate? I need to dig out the recipe I'm supposed to post it.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:37 PM	Man that sounds good...I haven't made homemade cookies since 3 christmas' past now...cuz i was gonna make my my oatmeal cookies...but that ended in a trip to the ER on christmas eve...not an experience I would like to repeat!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 02:37 PM	The leaves are all wrong for Heuchera....Here is a cool link to coleus, solenostemon http://www.glasshouseworks.com/gallery2.html
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:40 PM	Thanks moon! That's what I thought...so I better take starts then so I have some for next year...just love the color of this! check out my garden protector View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:40 PM	I'm better at identifying cookies than plants. Where's the cookie forum? I should go there.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:42 PM	that may even scare off Malakai
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:42 PM	that may even scare off Malakai
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:43 PM	LOL. Lynnie....uhg the bad neighbor with the dogs is here!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:44 PM	today I feel like the old buzzard View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 02:49 PM	Trina can you spin that the other way when you're feeling good? grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 02:52 PM	Love the garden gorgon, Trina. Lynnie, this is very easy and very good. NO BAKE CHOCOLATE PEANUTBUTTER COOKIES Mix together in a heavy saucepan: 2 cups sugar 4 TBS cocoa powder 1/2 cup milk 1 stick butter Place on high heat and stir constantly,\. When reaches a rapid boil, time for 1 minute, remove from heat and quickly add : 3 cups quick oats 1/2 cup peanut butter Stir until mixture thickens. Drop by teaspoonfuls onto waxed paper and let cool. The cook time is imperative...too little and it won't set, too long and it turns to crumbly glop. My mother tucked that recipe in with a blanket she made for our first born. She said with kids you need quick and tasty. been using it for 36 years and nary a complaint....grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 03:14 PM	that's it! that's the recipe! it's one of our favorites :) I'm going to cut & paste it into my favorite places so I don't have to hunt for it...the kids like to play "restaurant" with my cookbooks and everything gets mixed up.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 03:30 PM	Too cool. It is also a favorite here. Making them for Jordan's "before I was born day"...a treat to ease the wait for birthday cake and presents.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 03:40 PM	I can't get that song out of my head now "tell me why I don't like Mondays tell me why..." Ok I'm off to visit Mother so she can see the kids before school starts. Gonna have to put the radio on to change my earworm....
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 03:44 PM	Over the river and through the woods to Grandma's house we go.....have a great day...be careful.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 04:04 PM	"dino" as the kids call him is made out of old tools & rebar....my first attempt at "Garden Art".....LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 04:12 PM	Good job Trina. I love repurposed art.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 04:16 PM	Well I see these things at craft fairs but their prices are so blasted much...my husband taught me how to weld on this project....and it taught the kids a lesson too!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 04:21 PM	New art and a new skill....bonus round.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 04:23 PM	And that just because mom is disabled doesn't mean I have to live by someone else's limitations and neither should they
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 04:32 PM	Like Pogo says, I have seen the enemy and the enemy is we. Sometimes we listen to the conventional wisdom and accept failure with even trying....sad
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 04:35 PM	Exactly! TheMoone is very wise indeed...I try to tell them quit living down to what everyone else expects....rise above that and let your own light shine
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 05:51 PM	well I forgot Mother is babysitting her greatgrands today....did the groceries instead...lots of deep breaths with all the help I was getting from the kids...I'm now digging into some leftover Indian food....yum! (I'm feee-eeelin' fine...draggin' the line...) mission accomplished on the earworm. Sentences that start with "you can't" set my teeth on edge! "I can't WHAT?"
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 06:07 PM	Always been the sort to see You can't as an invitation to try....that made for an interesting childhood......yes I can climb up on the roof....see. a little Tommy James for the ears...how about Mony mony? Interesting story where he got that name...sitting in hotel room in New York trying to figure out the rhyme and saw a lighted billboard for Metropolitan Opera of New York with the abbreviation MONY....a mind full of useless information and trivial goodies....grin Gotta run to the dry cleaners...my military press was a bit lacking....grin Later Y'all
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 06:12 PM	Lynn, I know that song well! LOL Lynn on the cookie forum! If you find one, let me know Jean, not sure I want molasses on my Puffball. LOL Thanks for the recipe Jean Lynn, BF plans on taking me over near the lake one of the days when I am there. He said Lighthouse and BIG rocks are there ;-) And Dave, where ever you are.............Truck is fixed, so he is planning a trip to the forty, or 2...........LOL He also pickes up wood out there to burn during the winter. Any of the trees that fall over get cut up for burning at his place. Just so that bear that wanted to get into the trailer stays away :-\|
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 06:51 PM	lions and tigers and bears oh my!
Jim41 Delhi, LA August 31, 2009 06:59 PM	Make molassases out of the sorgrum. If the hay is rotten enough next spring will put it in my raised beds to help retain moisture. Had a real problem with that this year.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 07:06 PM	Jim, your not the only one who had trouble retaining moisture. We had to do a lot of watering. And now our growing season is coming to an end, and it's raining more. Sunny today, but more rain this month I think then we had all summer. :( We may have Hit the 90's 3 days, and one of them was in June............LOL Well at least the Puffballs like it
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 07:10 PM	Black Currant Lambic! Never heard of it.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 07:15 PM	Dave, have you heard of black currants?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 07:26 PM	Yes, there are several Black Currants, Ribes americanum, Ribes hudsonianum, Ribes nigrum.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 07:33 PM	Hey Dave, can you ID this palm for Trina? http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=7008870 OH, how rude. Good morning Dave. How are you today? Now, can you do the palm? Grin Yummy, Black Currant Jam on scones with Black Currant tea....Num Yummy.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 07:42 PM	I found out there where black currents after we moved here. Mom only had red, but we had some black growing near the creek here, so I looked them up. Now I can't find the current bushes down there anymore :( I wanted to move one up to my BF's, but I think a few animals that hang around done there might have done away with them, or they are hiding really good!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 07:50 PM	my brain hurts! too much info now crammed in there....make it stop make it stop....I'm starting to have nightmares about plants in starter pots trying to break into the house!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 08:02 PM	Poor Trina...we do sympathize with you, but gee everyone should have such a problem....grin You can join Napolean Boneparte the Fourth....They're coming to take me away, HAHA, HOHO HEEHEE, to the funny farm where life is beautiful..... Grin
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 08:03 PM	hehehe you're truly one of us Trina.......
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 08:11 PM	Good morning folks! Trina's Palm is maybe Chamaedorea cataractarum, Cataract Palm. The plant expands by spliting, and eventually forms a dense clump. Here is a mature clump. View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 08:16 PM	Good Morning Dave Is everything ok there now?
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 08:24 PM	Hi Kassy, I hope everything is okay!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 08:44 PM	So I got a baby one? How big will this thing get?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 08:49 PM	2 to 3 ft tall and wide at maturity I think is what I read. It would probably like a larger pot, a little more sun and maybe a shot of miraclegrow just for grins...
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:06 PM	It wasn't so happy in full sun...but i just fertilized them today so thats good to know!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 09:07 PM	I hope so too Dave! If anymore pops up ask and I'll ask my son.........LOL He needs a little extra work beside not knowing how to use a selfporpelled lawn mower.....LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 09:15 PM	Poor Guy will never live that down will he Mom? Grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 09:20 PM	ROTFL........Jean, I have said nothing to him, but had a great laugh!!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 09:25 PM	And it is stored in the Mom Arsenal forever, just in case ya need it....grin
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 09:29 PM	You bet it is........I didn't even tell my BF yet. He's going to love it!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 09:30 PM	Ah yes...knowledge the BF can't use....but can get a laugh from....
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:35 PM	oh so true
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:35 PM	that IS a funny visual....poor guy!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 09:37 PM	And don't ya know he hated having Mom show him how the lawnmower worked....grin
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:39 PM	ok who hasn't seen my viscious puppy?
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:46 PM	I have a confession....I have ever only mowed a lawn once in my life...and I owned my own house for years before getting married...so I am NOT one to laugh at your son.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:50 PM	until i moved here i always had a rider...now have push mower
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 09:52 PM	CorrectionTrina.......now have teenagers....LOL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) August 31, 2009 09:57 PM	very true...very true
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) August 31, 2009 10:17 PM	OMG, Lynn, I can laugh at mine because I was the one who mowed the lawn for years when I lived at home with my parents. I even mowed the neighbors lawn. He did say when he came in, before he found the handle that make it propel........."Now I see why Grandma had a riding mower!"..............ROTFL She got the riding mower after I left home!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) August 31, 2009 10:19 PM	Kassy's gone...do we hire or buy a rider....buy a rider, they don't talk back....grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI August 31, 2009 10:44 PM	Chamaedorea Palms are understory plants that like to live in rainforests. They should not be given a lot of sun.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 12:53 AM	OK Dave, would you tell that to my BF, who tends to neglect his. And it sits in an east window..........LOL They are also called Parlor Palm I gave mine away.......I sure hope that lady is not neglecting it!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 12:58 AM	We buy a rider Jean. BF said he will not buy a rider as long as he can cut the grass...........SO this year I'm letting him cut it instead of ME cutting it each time I was up there like I did last year. Hey, he has too much time on his hands anyway!!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 01:06 AM	Hey Kassy's Boy Friend, get that Parlor Palm out of the sun!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 01:09 AM	LOL and water it more then once a week.....
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 01:29 AM	we've had so much rain here hasn't been much of a need to water...never good when you go out and the plants are floating in their pots.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 01:34 AM	Please help me I'm drowning and its not from the dew....I guess I wished too hard. Now everyone else is getting rain and tomorrow, since it looks like today's showers aren't showing up as predicted, I have got to water...everything....Ach du leiber...
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 01:38 AM	I do a raindance for you then moon
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 01:50 AM	Thanks Trina...hasn't gotten terrible like it was in June/July....then the bottom dropped out and it rained everyday...careful what you ask for....grin. We got a couple showers Sunday...less than a 1/4 inch....I'm really just whining, Trina...grin
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 01:54 AM	A raindance! Maybe I can help. View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 01:55 AM	I know, there for awhile I felt like i was gonna grow webbed feet!!!! its truly sad when the average temp in Portland all summer was 20 degrees higher than our average temperature
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 01:57 AM	I don't know I dance naked under the moon...don't usually have company for that, too afraid of scaring people off!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 02:03 AM	I believe it starts like this: "To the East where the Sun rises. To the North where the cold comes from. To the South where the light comes from. To the West where the Sun sets. To the Father Sun. To the Mother Earth."
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 02:04 AM	Yes, the cold comes from up here :(
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 02:12 AM	Metro where have you been all my life?.....LOL just kidding
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 02:20 AM	To Sister moon we ask this gift.....
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 02:31 AM	Dave, BF is on messenger and I copied and pasted in to him what you said about the palm...........we have smilies that roll on the floor laughing, and he put that one in after he read it.............LOL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 02:37 AM	Anyone have any suggestions on what plants I can stick in my bathroom...window is an west facing one...it's the only window (for now). need greenery to liven it up a bit
Jim41 Delhi, LA September 1, 2009 03:30 AM	How long does it take the chives to come up Kassy? I figured as small as the seed were they would be up in three or four days.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 04:10 AM	Here you got Jim, I'm good at copy and pasting..... If you want to start them from seed, toss a small handfull into a 3 inch by 3 inch square of your garden. Water well. In a week or so you’ll notice slightly thick, grass-like shoots. During its first summer, cut chives sparsely so most of its energy is put into growing a strong root system. Cover them with leaves or straw their first winter, although they probably will live without it. They bloom in mid to late spring on erect stalks that hold the blooms above the rosette of leaves. Their light lavender flowers are actually many little flowers radiating out from a central point. The flowers are edible. They have a rather strong onion taste, so pull the small, individual “flowers” off and toss them into spring salads.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 04:12 AM	there you go talking about food again
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 04:16 AM	LOL sorry trina, but food is a part of my job too.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 04:21 AM	Really? What do you do?
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 04:34 AM	I take care of the developmentally disabled. I work nights and most of the cooking is done then. And we have a low sodium diet we have to follow. A very strict one. No more then 200mgs of sodium in any one food item........... That sure leaves hotdogs, brats, lunch meat, and a lot of thinks out! PS.. My mom was a dietary director of a nursing home. And the head cook before she was the dietary director. She taught me well ;-)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 04:41 AM	I don't envy you!!!! I must have my salt and my butter..couldn't cook without them! That has to be somewhat a stressful job...at least emotionally
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 04:44 AM	Good on you Kassy! Everyone needs a good diet to be healthy.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 04:47 AM	but I need my COOKIES....and lots of them and my French Silk Pie...and my Brownies...and doughnuts....and chocolate anything....Homemade Apple pie...and pumpkin bread and stawberry bread and cheesecake
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 04:54 AM	Boy, no low sodium diet there!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:07 AM	I'm hoping someday to reach 110 pounds...I keep getting stuck at 104
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:10 AM	Whoa, that's about what my client weighs, the one that is low sodium!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:13 AM	And yes, it can be an emotionally stressful job...... especially when you lose one of them suddenly :( We were considered a part of his family.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:14 AM	Yeah but if I do anything that breaks a sweat I drop back down to 98...I'm probably the only person I know that throws a party when I gain weight!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:16 AM	I use to volunteer at a place like that in springfield, except it was mostly children, and it was sad because most of their parents brought them there and then just don't come back....every child needs to be loved
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:24 AM	We have all adults. Some of ours have been in institutions and taken out to move in by us. We recenly got a really sweet lady in her 40's who was in a car accident and remembers nothing before the accident. She was at home for 4 years, but it was getting a little to stressful on the husband, so she came to us. I really like her And on the first night with me, by morning she remembered my name. She had a trick to remembering my name though. She has a neighbor with the same name!!!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:29 AM	Well that is awesome...what you do is a wonderful thing...I'm afraid cuz I know some day I will be in a place like that...I truly am living my worst nightmare somedays...But I am just too stubborn and have too much more to do to give in yet!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:34 AM	Hey, don't you think that way, like I said, most of ours were in institutions before they came to us. The one on the low sodium diet has congestive heart falure, and Muscular dystrophy!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 05:37 AM	Are you a vegan Trina? Working with special needs folks can be stressful; glad there are folks to give them help. Glad you are on the job Kassy!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:43 AM	not really....just not a big fan of most meat..prefer pastas with lots of fresh garlic and tomatoes Kassy I have a very unusual medical condition...one you don't contract, one caused by repeated abuse as a child, If I laugh at it it's not so painful...well physically it is but not so much emotionally anymore...I have already waaaaay surpassed what any doctor ever expected I could do...so i figure I must be doing something right or I'm just too darn stubborn to live down to their expections and limitations!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:44 AM	Thanks Dave, I started doing this 5 years ago. Before that I took care of the elderly, and took care of my mom for 2 1/2 years too.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:45 AM	You go girl!!!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:47 AM	It's amazing what a person can do when they set their minds to it!
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 05:51 AM	I use to wish I had a name for what was wrong...I'd wake up in so much pain I'd throw up, and on those days I'd get very frustrated cuz I couldn't do simple things like tie my shoes, or grip buttons, or zipper tabs...quite literally I'd feel like I got hit by a Mack truck and forgot to lay down and die...Then after alot of painful tests and MRI's they found the problem...Now I wish I didn't know. So I am on daily meds to try and control the pain and painkillers for the breakthrough pain
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:55 AM	Hey, I am on daily meds too, and thank you for reminding me to take that last set of them. Be right back!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 05:56 AM	We all have skeletons in the closet Trina, it is very healthy to deal with them.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:00 AM	I have dealt with them, but on days I really hurt..I have to laugh or I will cry....as for meds you're right I forgot mine too..I'll show you mine if you show me yours....LOL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:01 AM	Very true Dave!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:02 AM	LOL, trina is it wasn't so last I would get the camera out and take pictures of them.....LOL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:06 AM	LOL...speaking of cameras..I'm getting mine out tomorrow to take pics of my roses and my flower garden cuz my cell phone camera just doesn't do any of them justice!
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:10 AM	This was my mom's poppy View Larger
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:13 AM	I wish! My grandma has poppies growing like that all over her back yard and I've tried everything to get starts to grow here, she's collected seeds for me, we've dug a patch up and transplanted it but nothing...it just dies and I never see them again
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:24 AM	Really? Wow I dug this one up from my mom's place the spring after she had passed away. ( I got a few of her flowers). I transplanted it here, in a low section, and when we had alot of snow like we usually do, it wasn't growing the best there, so I transplanted it closer to the house. This Spring I transplanted it to my BF's place, and that is a picture that I took of it this spring. I have collected seeds, so I want to try to start more too. Those seeds are TINY!!!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 06:30 AM	Meds? Lisinopril, 2 kinds of Insulin.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:31 AM	yes they are...I have a feeling that plants (like kids and pets) know when they are not wanted, either that or my ex was just a #$%%$# and did something to them cuz he knew I wanted them so much
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:35 AM	Nuerontinin 400mg, 4 times a day Lyrica 75 mg, 2 times a day Sinemet 75/125mg, 3 times a day Mirapex 25mg, 1 a day Flexerill 10mg, 3 times a day Tramadol 50mg, 3 times a day and Vicodin as needed for pain (but I don't like the way it makes me feel so I try not to take it)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:39 AM	OK Dave , meds? Mebaral, Phenitoin, Phenobarb, and Fosamax D
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:44 AM	OOPS, I forgot my eye drops Timolol Mal .............Glaucoma runs in our family.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:44 AM	its sad, as we get older and we pack for trips and we realize we have to have a seperate bag just for our medications!!!!
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 06:44 AM	Also B-Complex & high Niacin doses; supposed to be good for me.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:46 AM	I keep teasing my doctor that I am just gonna throw all mine away and take my chances
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:49 AM	welcome to the game show guess the meds...here's how we play, I'm going to show you a pill and you have to guess what it is...if you get it right, you get a cookie...the person with the most cookies at the end of the game gets their choice...this lovely ergonomically correct hand shovel, or these lovely goatskin garden gloves...players are you ready to begin?....LOL
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:53 AM	OH watch it, i may be good at that game..........we have a pill book at work ............LOL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:56 AM	we have one here at the house....this could get ugly....ROFL
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 1, 2009 06:57 AM	Best to be careful about one's medical program. If I don't take insulin, I'm a gonner; if I take too much insulin I'm a gonner. Have to manage the meds carefully (and don't forget to eat). Time to go. Good night all. Aloha nui loa, Dave
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:58 AM	Nite Dave
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:59 AM	LOL trina
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 07:01 AM	Nite Dave...thanks for the help...I'm off here to Kassy...night
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 02:05 PM	Good morning all. Kassy, Dave, Trina, love and strength to you all...great mindset by each of you, grin. Adding you all to my daily meditation and asking for good and kind for each of you. Kassy, losing patients is why I left nursing all those years ago....could not find the detached/connected balance that is necessary to survive....my mom said she never understood why I tried in the first place. She started her nursing career in the Army nursing corps....knew what it took to keep the line between compassion and over-involvement strong and clear. I don't....grin Gloria Gaynor for you all......I will survive.....GRIN
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 04:02 PM	Morning all!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 04:29 PM	Top o' the morning to ya Lynnie.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 04:56 PM	Morning, I found it easier when I took care of the elderly. I didn't become as attached. But working where I do now, I only have 3 to take care of, so with so much close contact with them you tend to get attached a lot easier. The mother of the one we lost send us pizza on the day of our staff meeting and a beautiful thank you note......Thanking us and telling us that she had always told him that he was lucky enough to have 2 homes......their's and with us when they couldn't be there for him. She is a real sweet lady. I'm already getting attached to our new one, and I have only worked with her 3 nights....LOL
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 1, 2009 04:57 PM	You have a good heart Kassy.....it shows in all you do.
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 05:04 PM	Thank you Jean
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:06 PM	morn..well afternoon everyone! I couldn't be a nurse, not because I couldn't keep that line, or because i don't care, but because I have absolutely zero tolereance for stupid people and I would get in trouble for going off on a family member who shows up just to get the patient upset
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 1, 2009 06:16 PM	Don't feel bad trina, I have zero tolereance for stupid people too..........but here its the management that is stupid!!!......................LOL Headed out, talk later, if BF lets me on line.......LOL
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:18 PM	Drive safely Kassy
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:20 PM	afternoon Trina, did you get your plants watered? :)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 1, 2009 06:27 PM	Heck Lynnie I'm still trying to get them all back in the house! Trying to figure out which ones will tolerate low (very low) light levels so I can move some to the bathroom! Stupid tree-hugging-dirt-worshipper in me can't bear to see anyone of them die...even if the bulk of them were free! By the way venice...my verbascum died out too right after it flowered...apparently they do that
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 2, 2009 12:01 AM	Oh Lynn, I took this for you on the way up north View Larger
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 2, 2009 12:04 AM	And this is what was on the other side of the road :o View Larger
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:07 AM	Eek! (hiding my head under pillow) they're WAVING Kassy, whatever you do, DON'T STOP THE CAR! This message was edited Sep 1, 2009 7:08 PM
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 12:09 AM	Lynnie was kassy driving fast or is the corn moving???
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:12 AM	It is moving JJ because Malakai is in there! And Kassy said she'd drive safely while snapping pics at 60 mph....
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 12:15 AM	I had to holler at the kids here I could hear them but couldn't see them. Guess where they were?? Yep children in the corn.LOL This message was edited Sep 1, 2009 7:16 PM
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:18 AM	LOL children of the corn
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:23 AM	they're probably zombies now...watch them for odd behavior.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:28 AM	help me the plants are attacking!!!!
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 12:42 AM	Their behavior was already odd. BTW my GS half brothers name is Malakai.hmmm
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 12:55 AM	yup tough to tell sometimes... is he dressed all in black?? Where's Pastor Jim Rock of Ages when we need him?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 01:08 AM	Lynnie, you might want to spray paint a circle around that plant, that way you'll know if it is moving at night...you aleady said it hides behind the playhouse..... The corn crawls in, the corn crawls out, the corn gets up and moves about....
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:10 AM	I looked at it today, no more bugs...doesn't look any bigger....but if it moved at night it would just get back in the circle by morning...
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:13 AM	ya'll are too much today....please...pretty please...pretty pretty please....PLEASE someone take some plants!
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:16 AM	It must be the change in weather, we're all a little silly... Trina I would very happily take some plants if I lived a reasonable distance from you. I have a big empty yard that needs some plants!
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 01:17 AM	I am with Jean concerning Kassy, Dave and Trina having to take med's and insulin as part of your daily live's! Good vibe's to you all. Kassy.....you are going to make Lynnie have nitemare's tonight with those picture's but thank's for adding those because Lynnie's post's make's me laugh hard about this;-)
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:18 AM	how far away are you...at this point i'd be willing to drive them to you!!!!
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 01:19 AM	Trina, do you have any cool vine's your are wanting to give away?
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:22 AM	two types of vina, sweet potato, swedish ivy, german ivy, licorice vine, wire vine, and dichondra...thats just off the top of my head Rachel, she brought me over 1000 plants and I can't remember them all
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 01:28 AM	Hi Trina, the ivy plant's would more than likely be hardy in your area. Alot of hedera's are hardy down to zone 5. The wire vine......what does that one look like? I am not familiar with that plant;-) Thank's much Rachel
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 01:37 AM	Trina, if you will be around this weekend I might find time to run down.
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:38 AM	that first one was supposed to be vinca....wire vine is hardy in zones 7 through 10 here's a pic...as for the rest I don't have anymore room in the garden, so they have to be putin pots, given away, or die
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:40 AM	yes I will be home, I am still have to dig a Brugmansia, and 3 spider plants out of the garden!
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 01:41 AM	RacheI It is in the plant files http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57658/ columnea x banksii
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 01:42 AM	I don't mean to harp on this, but I'm pretty sure you can see them in the second picture, crawling out of the corn field.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 01:44 AM	Who, the corn? or JJs grandkids...LOL
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 01:45 AM	I will dmail you later in week. ExDIL lives in Farmington and she has to come pick up GS Friday after school. Maybe I could even talk her into picking up some and then she could bring you back those pots I have. Do you plant them in there pots so they are easier to dig up?
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 01:59 AM	Hey Thank's Jean for doing the foot work on that wire vine of Trina's! Trina, I may be interested in that vine. Do you have a pic posted of it somewhere's? If not, would you post me one here? Thank's much Rachel
trinawitch Canton,IL &Dent County, MO (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 02:02 AM	I wish I had...they got planted cause I ran out of pots earlier in the season
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 02:03 AM	You are welcome Rachel, wasn't too hard as I tracked it down for someone earlier this week....wait, its only Tuesday....grin guess it was yesterday.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 02:16 AM	Thank's again Jean. If the wire vine is what Jean say's it is ...it is not cold hardy there Trina;-)
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 02:23 AM	The info I found all referred to it as a house plant. There is some confusion in plant files, but Todd said wasn't worth changing as is just common name duplication. Too welcome Rachel...grin
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 02:28 AM	Jean did you find anything by googling on this "wire" vine of Trina's by chance?
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 02:38 AM	The wire vine name I remembered from searching out goldfish plant. It is another name for it.hang on and I'll try to find all the stuff for you.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 02:40 AM	Is this what Trina has Jean? http://www.plantcare.com/encyclopedia/goldfish-vine-330.aspx
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 02:49 AM	Is this the wire vine? Wire Vine, Maidenhair Vine, Mattress Vine (Muehlenbeckia axillaris) ... davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/58078/ - Cac... This message was edited Sep 1, 2009 9:55 PM
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 02:55 AM	Here is the thread from Yesterday with all the links. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1032810/
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 02:58 AM	jjsgramma, the link will not show up;-) Jean.........;-) Trina could you please add a picture of this "wire" vine if you still want to place it in another home. Thank's Rachel
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 03:01 AM	http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/.../a0260tx... - Cached - Similar Maybe this will work? Just an beginner ya know. Give up it don't work either. This message was edited Sep 1, 2009 10:05 PM
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 03:04 AM	I can not view it jjsgramma. Is this what you are thinking? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/58078/
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 03:05 AM	Rachel, did you go to the original thread?
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 03:09 AM	Yep thats what I was thinking. I better take a paste and copy clas.LOL
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 03:11 AM	Hi Jean. I went to the link that you applied from some gal named mylindak who asked about a plant. I was looking for a picture of Trina's so called wire vine though;-) I must be missing something here???? Rachel
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 03:13 AM	Sorry, didn't mean to be short. From all the bouncing around, it would now appear that a whole bunch of Columnea are called goldfish vine....and some of them are also called guppy vine, which is an entirely different TWO plants....Three genuses, three common names, a bunch of species.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 03:13 AM	Your doing just fine jjsgramma;-)
jjsgramma Woodhull, IL (Zone 5a) September 2, 2009 03:14 AM	Outta here Night all Sweet dreams
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 2, 2009 03:15 AM	Yes, show us a photo, it's easier to ID than guessing the plant.
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 03:16 AM	In all reality, it would help Trinia if she was able to know if her "goldfish vine/wire vine" would be cold hardy in her area of the world;-) Big hug's to all here Rachel
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 03:17 AM	That thread for mylindak is where I found the information that I gave to Trina when she said she had a wire vine. Wire vine is one of the common names for one of the 3 or 4 Columneas that are called goldfish/guppy vine. The actual Guppy vine is called nematanthus gregarius....i don't blame you for being confused, Rachel....heck, I was there and I am confused....grin
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 03:20 AM	I'm sorry Rachel, Trina has not posted a picture of her plant. She just said the tag called it a wire vine and I told herthe link to look at the wire vine to see if it matched her plant...
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 03:25 AM	Been a long day. Going to try to sleep tonight....best to you all. Sweet sleep, happy dreams. Good night, my brain hurts....grin
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA September 2, 2009 03:32 AM	That's OK Jean. Plant's can alway's have mis-marked tag's tagging along in their planter's when bought in any store/nursery.....or even via the net;-)
kassy_51 Pulaski, WI (Zone 4b) September 2, 2009 03:35 AM	Dave...........Forty...............tomorrow ;-) nite
Metrosideros Keaau, HI September 2, 2009 03:42 AM	Apparently Trina is busy with family; I'm sure she'll post a photo when she has time.
Lynnie6868 (Zone 5b) September 2, 2009 10:02 AM	boy I'm glad I fell asleep before all that confusion! lol Sorry I didn't even say g'night, I just dozed off. Off to long day at work....I checked the thermometer it is 48 degrees.
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 12:05 PM	BRRRR...to think it was in the 90's last weekend...have a good day Lynnie
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a) September 2, 2009 12:15 PM	Hey Gypsies, Rebels and Friends....no, this isn't a song by Cher...grin. I am gonna start a new thread to make it easier for those fighting dial-up....and it will probably add to the confusion a bit til everybody gets word...grin The new thread will be here in Beg. Gardening and is named STORIES OF BASIL, LAMBIC AND CORN....see you there Moon

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